Episode 141: Trading Ordinary for Ocean Life | Erin Carey | Founder of Roam Generation PR
Erin Carey watched one sailing documentary and decided to change her family’s life. She went from a government job and a house in the Australian suburbs to buying a boat sight unseen, and now lives full time on the ocean while running Roam Generation, her global PR agency for travel, leisure, and luxury brands. This episode dives into how Erin and her husband made the leap, how they saved $85K in under two years, and what it takes to run a successful business while homeschooling three kids and navigating international waters. She shares the realities of boat life (it’s not all sunset views), why you don’t need to have it all figured out to start, and how living intentionally changes everything. For anyone dreaming of ditching “normal” for something bigger, whether it’s digital nomad life, remote work, or just a better daily routine, Erin’s story proves it’s possible. You just have to start.
“Serendipitous moments happen all the time, once we decided to do it, where they can’t just be a coincidence. The universe conspires to make our dreams come true.”
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Director & Founder of Roam Generation
Monesti, Tunisia, Africa
SV Delos - YouTube Channel
Where The Magic Happens - book
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Chapters:
00:00 – Erin Carey on Living and Working Full-Time on a Boat
02:00 – Launching a PR Business While Sailing the Caribbean
06:00 – Finding Clients Who Embrace Remote, Nomadic Living
09:00 – Life Before the Boat: 9-to-5, Mortgage, Routine
10:40 – The Netflix Documentary That Changed Everything
13:00 – Signs, Serendipity, and Saying Yes Anyway
15:00 – Saying No to Ordinary: What Happens When You Choose More
16:00 – Buying a Boat Without Knowing How to Sail
18:00 – The Hidden Costs and Tradeoffs of Boat Life
20:00 – Swapping Roles: Erin Becomes the Breadwinner
23:00 – Staying in It When It Gets Hard
25:00 – Is It Time to Stop or Just Time to Pivot?
28:00 – The Big Crazy Dreams Don’t Feel Crazy Anymore
29:30 – Managing Family Pushback and Doubts
33:00 – Raising Resilient, Resourceful Kids on the Water
35:00 – How Erin Redefines Freedom and Success
36:00 – What 8-Year-Old Erin Would Have Thought
37:00 – Why Role Models Don’t Have to Be Famous
39:00 – Erin on Real Power, Confidence, and Owning Your Path
45:00 – The Blueprint: How to Reverse Engineer a Big Leap
50:00 – How Erin Made Remote Work Actually Work
51:00 – Simple Internet Setup That Keeps Her Business Running
53:00 – A Typical Day on the Boat with Kids and Clients
57:00 – Why She Chooses to Keep Working
59:00 – What’s Next After the Dream Comes True?
60:00 – Daily Mantras and Favorite Quotes That Keep Her Going
62:00 – How to Connect with Erin and Follow the Journey
But the documentary started rolling and I put my phone down and I was just captivated. And I remember we both sat there in silence, watched the whole thing, and then the credit started rolling and we both kind of just turned to each other and went, that looks cool. Let's, let's do it.
That's Erin Carey and this is The Powerful Ladies Podcast.
Hey guys, I'm your host, Kara Duffy. And in this episode, I am very excited for you to meet Erin Carey. She's the founder of the PR agency, Rome, which she created on and runs from the boat she and her family live on while they sail the world. Yes, she is that cool. We discuss how she, her husband, and three kids, ended up living on a boat.
Why we must go after a life that is truly our own design, how to get internet anywhere in the world. Very important for those of us who want to be roaming entrepreneurs and what it really looks like when we say yes to the universe, both the good, the bad, the hard, and the awesome.
Welcome to the Powerful Ladies podcast.
Thank you so much for having me.
I would love to begin. Please tell everyone listening who you are, where you are in the world, at least right in this moment, and what you're up to.
Sure. Uh, my name is Erin Carey. Uh, I am the director and founder of Rome Generation, a PR agency for travel and leisure and luxury brands.
And currently I am sitting on a boat because I live on a boat and it's a's our full-time home. And our home at the moment is in Mony, which is in Tunisia in Africa.
Amazing. So, of course, myself and everyone else listening has 1,000,001 questions based on that share. Um, but before we get into all the travel bits and why you're on a boat, tell me how did you start your agency and what's, what surprised you most about that since you started it?
Well, would you believe that it's actually the travel that came first in the agency that came second? So I honestly put it down to the fact that, uh, my husband and I, uh, took a lot of courage and guts to get to where we are, and good things really happened because of that, we were rewarded and things fell into place.
Uh, essentially my PR agency, uh, happened quite organically while we were traveling by a boat around the Caribbean. Uh, one of the largest sailing YouTube channels in the world, SB Dallas. Actually asked me to do some work for them. At the time I was doing some freelance writing, and now prior to heading off on our boat, I wasn't a writer.
I never dreamt that I was good enough to be able to write, but I did manage to be able to become a writer and sold plenty of articles and still do. And, uh, while I was out and about, I asked Estee de if I could interview them for, uh, an article and they obliged. And then yeah, a few weeks later I got an email from them just saying, Hey, would you.
Mind doing some like promotional work for us, and I just couldn't believe it. That was just this amazing lucky break for me because they were like our idols. We had actually spent two years watching them on YouTube, uh, learning all about this boat, crazy boat life that we're doing at the moment. So, yeah.
One thing kind of led to another. I had my first client and then it grew from there. I realized I actually really love this. Uh, I like, I like it more than writing, and I'm better at it. I'm really good at it. I, it's kind of comes natural to me. I love the hustle. I love the connecting and, uh, thinking, you know, how can I make this work And not taking no for an answer.
It really suits my personality. So, uh, once I realized that this was something that could sustain our travel full time, because originally our travel was only a sabbatical, uh, but once I came across this opportunity to start a PR agency afloat, uh, it became reality that we could continue doing this, uh, full-time and indefinitely.
Now, I'm not saying that we will do it indefinitely, but we have the option. So it's always nice to have some options. Uh, and so now I run my PR agency full-time from my yacht. Uh, now it's not a super yacht, it's just a regular 47 foot, uh, like 1980s. Boat. Uh, however, I have an office space, dual screens, all the latest equipment.
Uh, I've got internet everywhere we go. Obviously, if there won't be any internet, we can't travel to where, you know, to that place. But that's fine because pretty much everywhere has internet these days. And I, I'm able to run it remotely, 100% remotely staffed by remote, um, digital nomads also who are in different, different parts of the globe traveling as well.
And my clients are also all remote. I've not met most of them, uh, in real life. So it, it's, it's great and I get to use my creativity and my drive and entrepreneurial kind of side while also traveling the world and spending time with my family, which is the whole reason that we chose to do this in the first place.
So much of that share checks all the boxes of things that I care about. So my questions, I think are just gonna expand, not get fewer as this goes on. Um, but, you know, while we're thinking about you and your clients, what type of people do you work with and, and who is a perfect fit for you?
Yeah, so it's taken me a while to figure that out at first.
Mm-hmm. I probably niche too quickly and sometimes you can niche yourself out of a job if you get too tight too quickly. And so at the start I was like, well, I'm doing a really great job for this sailing YouTube channel. Maybe I'll just keep doing sailing YouTube channels. I mean, there are thousands of selling YouTube channels out there, but not that many of them can afford to have a publicist for starters.
Mm-hmm.
Those that can, you know, there might only be the top 50 or something. And then there's only so many publications that you can tell the same kind of stories over two. So pretty quickly I realized that, that that wasn't the right niche for me, but I knew that I wanted it to, to be something to do with travel, because that's my passion.
If I was running a PR agency for, uh, say, you know, a makeup brand or a baby in children's product or something, I wouldn't have the same level of passion. And that's what. Gets me the results that, you know, gets our whole team the results. 'cause we're all travelers, we're all passionate about that. So our ideal clients are people or so businesses, brands, companies, um, mid-size companies that are a little bit different, you know, living life differently.
Uh, a boutique, uh, camping experience in Africa, or a cycling company that has tours that cycle around Iceland. Or an app that's created for digital nomads to find accommodation, uh, or a charter yacht company. Based in the Maldives, you know what I mean? Something a bit different. That's to do with travel, luxury leisure and that the appreciates the fact that we run from a boat, not sees it as a, a negative, but actually as a positive.
And it really is a positive because I find I get a lot of, um, interest from journalists if I kind of just throw, throw a sentence in there that, oh, you know, by the way, I am riding from Africa, or I live on a boat, I run my PE agency from a boat. I always get replies and mm-hmm. It, it, it definitely works well and often, uh, I'll get myself in a publication and then I'll be able to also, um, say to the journalists, is it okay if we include a few clients or, because I've been in in it once, they'll get my clients in next time type things.
So yeah, there's a lot of bonuses for working with us. That's just a couple of them. Uh, but yeah, it's, um, it's. I can't, I still kind of pitch myself that I've been fortunate enough to create this lifestyle and this agency, which I am really, really passionate about.
Well, for everyone who is listening and not watching this episode, the more you talk about it, the bigger your smile gets.
So you really see, as you're sharing, you're like, you're, it's literally like radiating, like, yay, like this is my life. This is what I do.
Yeah. Yeah. Look, I, I never, I knew deep down that something would come up for me. I had no idea what it was, but I could never have predicted this, to be honest, five years ago, I, I didn't even know what PR was.
So it's funny that, how, how life works out, but yeah, pretty stoked by it.
Well, I think it's a great segue to go to what was life like before the business, before the boat. Give us the background story so we can kind of see from where you went to where you are today.
Yeah, so look, life was good. It was normal, it was happy.
It certainly nothing wrong. Maybe it was something missing perhaps, but you know, I probably wouldn't have been able to put my finger on it. Uh, we were just a regular family, middle income in the suburbs. Three children both worked, had big mortgage, two cars, you know, like pretty, pretty regular. Mm-hmm. We were, we're Australian, we lived in Australia and.
I, um, I am aware that that obviously comes with certain privileges. We have a, a visa and a passport that allows us to travel to the different places in the world. And so I'm not saying that everyone could do what we do, but I like to kind of stress that we weren't wealthy in our own right. We weren't given any money by our parents.
We were just regular. And so I worked for the Australian government. My husband also did, uh, we were public servants. We had very comfortable jobs with good benefits. Uh, and in a sense that's kind of, that kept. Us trapped in a way because mm-hmm. I was always too scared to leave and I thought about it so many times, but then I'd get pregnant and, you know, stay because there was, you know, the good maternity leave or we knew we were gonna go overseas in a year, so I'd stay because the work was gonna give me leave of absence or, so there was so many reasons for me to just never leave.
And before I knew I'd been there for 17 years and you know, even saying it out loud, I'm like, why did I stay so long? That just is not me at all. It's, yeah, it's too safe. So anyway, I did stay for that long and, uh, one evening we, uh, had put the kids to bed. Uh, as a parent, you know how it is when you finally get to sit down at night, you're exhausted and you just kind of want a veg on whatever's going on.
Netflix, and I was just looking through my phone and my husband chose a documentary. We didn't discuss it. He just put on whatever. I probably wasn't even planning on watching it. Uh, but the documentary started rolling and I put my phone down and I was just captivated. And I remember we both sat there in silence, watched the whole thing, and then the, the credit started rolling and we both kind of just turned to each other and.
That looks cool. Let's, let's do it. And it was a documentary called Maiden Trip by Laura Decker, the youngest girl to ever have started around the world. At the time she was about 14, which is just insane to think, uh, you know, I still don't know how she did it. We're out here now and it just seems crazy. I personally feel like I couldn't do it at my age till at her age.
So, amazing lady. And actually, uh, interesting story. When we, uh, were in the ZOS earlier this year, we, uh, were in the marina. We had just returned to our boat. We'd been back in Australia for 18 months 'cause the Coronavirus and, uh, Laura Boat, Laura Decker's boat was there. And, uh, my husband kind of came back in the dinghy and said, oh, dupy, what's that?
Boaty? And I was like. Serious. That's Laura Deck's boat. He goes, yeah, it's, it's just over there. I'm like, why are you not more excited about this? This is amazing. He goes, I'm sure she's not on board. And I was like, oh yeah, I guess you're probably right. Anyway, we went up to the boat. We quickly all jumped in our little dinghy and drove over and went and knocked on the hu and sure enough, she was there.
And so I, we got to see her in person, speak to her, thank her, tell her like, you are literally the reason that we've changed our whole lives. Mm-hmm. She invited us on board, gave us a tour of our boat and everything, so that was pretty special. But I also had another really serendipitous moment just the other day.
And that's the thing, like these things happen all the time. Mm-hmm. I have found since we decided we wanted to do this big thing, there were so many little moments, I can't remember them all, but so many moments would crop up where I'd be like, this can't be just a coincidence, or This is too much of a coincidence for this not to like it meant to be.
It's like the universe conspired to make our dream come true. But just the other day, I had an article published in Creasing World. I actually wrote it about two years ago. It was just finally published and it, um, somebody, the only one person wrote to me, I mean, every now and then, someone emails and comments on the article and he just said, um, he.
My advice is just to keep going for as long as you can, because I did it with my three sons who are similar age as yours, 25 years ago on our boat called Northern Magic. And I was like, Northern Magic, why does that ring a bell to me? And then I realized that that was a book that we read while we were back in Australia in between deciding, do we sell our boat?
Do we keep going? You know, we're back home now and it's comfortable and maybe we shouldn't tear the kids outta school again and what do we do?
Mm-hmm.
And it was the winter's night, you know, and I, we just started reading this book to the kids and yeah, that was the book. After a few chapters, I kind of just turned to my husband and said, 'cause I remember my eyes were welling up as we're reading it because mm-hmm.
Emotions were so strong of remembering like what it was like living on the boat and being together and being free. And yeah, that was the book that made us go back to, or come back to our boat. And he reached out to me. Little, little did he know that he had had a, a major kind of impact on our, um, on the trajectory of our life as well.
So again, there's so many little things that crop up along the way, which I think makes you feel like you're in the right, right place doing the right thing.
Having done hundreds of these episodes at this point and working with all the, the entrepreneurs that I work with, I am continually amazed at how those moments show up more and more and more.
And they show up for anyone choosing the life that they always thought they wanted. These entrepreneurs and these people who take the risk to, to live a life that is truly their design. Like you said, I think there is this element of the universe being like, yes, you're finally going to play, you're finally going to do it.
Like I, I, whatever forces there are in the universe, but they tend to get bored. I think they're bored by us choosing ordinary. So the second that we don't, they're like, yes, okay, let me remind you. It's safe, like keep going. And so many people have these stories of these little golden nuggets along the way that allow them to be like, okay, I made the right choice.
Okay, it's gonna work out. 'cause it's scary, you know, deciding to, I'm assuming you sold a bunch of things and bought a boat and you're like, what the hell are we doing?
Yeah, totally. We did, we did all of that. Uh, so the first time around, we rented our house out. Uh, but we bought a boat sight unseen from the other side of the world.
We weren't sailors. We'd never in a boat, we didn't have any savings, uh, to buy a boat. So we were in no position to make this happen, but we figured out a way and we did it. And, uh, so it took us about two years and two months from watching that video, uh, one night to flying out of Australia on one way tickets to the Caribbean.
And when we first arrived, we literally didn't know how to move from point A to point B. We had bought a little trailer sailor in the lead up. So we'd practiced with learn how to sail, you know, on smaller boats. And my husband was very technically minded, or is very technically minded and capable, and he knew that he would be able to do all the maintenance and everything.
So I think it's important that you at least have, um, somebody who is, is able to do all of that. 'cause that's a big part of living on a boat. Um, but yeah, when. To make it happen, we had to make a stack of sacrifices and we, uh, sold a stack of years, sold all of our cars. But then after, because it was always a, a sabbatical, so after two years, actually just before two years, we ran outta money and we, we had to go home essentially.
But soon after we arrived home, the coronavirus struck as well. Mm-hmm. So not only were we home, but we were trapped and we still owned our boat over. It was left in the Zos, which are little islands off the coast of Portugal. So she was sitting there waiting for us. And what was going to be six months, I mean, in hindsight, six months probably would never have worked.
We would never have had enough time to save enough money and for me to get my business, like really off the ground. So it, everything happens for a reason. And we ended up being home for 18 months. And it was perfect for me to really get my business, uh, established and to be making enough money to support us financially.
Uh, but. The, we had to make a decision, do we keep our house or do we sell it? And in the end, we sold our home. So we sold absolutely everything. Uh, we've got a few boxes in a cellar at my mother-in-law's house, but other than that, we, we are free out here essentially. And, um. Yeah, it's, look, I'm not gonna say that it's perfect because it's really not.
And it's, that's been part of our journey and our lesson mm-hmm. Of learning. Okay, well we've done this amazing thing and we're supposedly living our dream life. Why? Why isn't it dream worthy? I mean, it looks like it is on, on Instagram and on paper, but you have the same challenges out here as you do back home.
So it's been, part of our story, I think, is also figuring out what, what if our, if this is in our life, what else? How else can we redesign it and what, what will it look like next? Or how can we make this one better? Mm-hmm. And it might sound like a little bit. I don't know, like we ungrateful to others maybe, but I think just because it does seem like it, it, it should be perfect, doesn't necessarily mean that it is.
So, yeah, I can elaborate on that a little bit more, I guess. Um, one of the biggest challenges is having children that, uh, this time around there were, I know other kids, uh, around, so they've gone eight months and we've met two other boats that have children aboard, and they were only for about three weeks in Spain.
Mm-hmm. That's been really hard having three boys without any other children to play with, to socialize with and connect with. Uh, and they're older this time around, so they're not backwards at coming forwards at telling us that they're bored and they want to go home, or they want to be with their grandparents.
And they cousins who, you know, they remember more this time. It's the first time around they were younger and didn't have much of an opinion. Um, so there's that challenge. Uh, and then there's also the challenge that my husband, uh, I'm the, uh, the breadwinner I guess now. So we've completely switched roles.
I mean, we were both breadwinners back at home, but he had never not worked. And now he homeschools the children, looks after the house and maintains the boat. So that's a, like a very big change for him. Mm-hmm. And it's, I certainly am glad that I have this role because I. I love my job, so it makes it easy for me to come to work every day, whereas mm-hmm.
Honestly, he has the kind of rough end of the bug and with his job, because homeschooling is super difficult for us anyway, it doesn't come naturally. And then, um, to also have the stress of maintain the bone and everything. So that's a challenge that we're still trying to work around. And how do you solve that?
When I don't wanna quit my business and he doesn't want me to either, but we can't exactly swap roles and I don't have time to also add schooling the kids into this. Like, I'm working more than full-time as it is. Mm-hmm. So, yeah, it's, it's a lot to think about. And even if you, like, we've got this far yet, we still haven't quite figured it out.
Mm-hmm. And I find that really kind of frustrating.
Yeah. There, um. I don't remember what episode was on, but we were, I was talking to another entrepreneur and they were saying, you know, you see people, they start their business and you're like, oh, they're at the top of the mountain. She's like, and then you start your business and you go, oh, I'm just at the bottom.
Like the perspective keeps shifting where, you know, we from the outside and it looks like you've made it and then you're in it and you're like, oh my gosh, no, there's like another 10,000 feet we have to climb before we can get a view. And we were talking about embracing it as that's, we chose to jump in 'cause we wanted the journey and we didn't realize how big of a journey.
We didn't realize that we were going for Everest from the first jump. Um, and, and how we can keep changing that perspective and accepting that every great choice we make is gonna be the start of another mountain. Because, you know, that nervous feeling in our stomach is the fact that we don't know what we're getting ourselves into.
And. You know, can, we can do it though. How do we keep coming together? I think it exactly. I'm sure there's so many people who are listening to this who love travel, want to do this, whether it's a boat or a tiny house, or just to figure out how to travel the world in general. And I think it's really interesting that you and your husband had the aha moment at the same time, because I think often we hear people like trying to pull the other one into like breaking free.
Um, did it, it seems like it was very organic for the both of you to be like Yes. At the same time. And has it been that way and is it just shifting now with the role changes or is it something that you guys have been kind of playing more of a tennis match than, um, you know, on the same page all the time?
Yeah, good question. Look, it, it, that's what makes this story so crazy that it, it actually was the fact that we both went, let's do it together at the same time. You know, that that's, to me is crazy because how does that happen? Um, you know, most people, it probably would've been the, the husband that suggests that the wife would be like, hell no, I am not living on a boat.
And that would be the end of it. So, uh, and then throughout the journey, like we had to be really dedicated or we never would've pulled this off because we had to make a stack of sacrifices to get here. Mm-hmm. So I think, uh, while we were pretty much both on board equally the whole way, there were probably moments where it just felt too hard and I wanted to quit, or he wanted to quit.
Luckily, it never happened at the same time. So if someone kind of felt that way, the other one would be like, come on, we can do it, and cheer them on, and a few days later they'd be back to onboard. So that's definitely the process to getting out to the. Since being on the boat. Uh, look, it's full of ups and downs.
It's really, really hard. It's definitely the hardest thing we've ever done. Um, but we came back. So like that, it obviously shows that it's also the best thing we've ever done, but it doesn't come with that enormous challenges. Mm-hmm. But we have to remind ourselves. Living at home also has challenges.
They're just different kind of challenges. I remember when we went home in the middle of, um, our journey when the coronavirus happened and we had to go back to regular life pretty quickly. The kids went straight back into school. Same school. We had to quickly buy a car. We had to, we both started working full-time again, and we had sport commitments, play dates.
Mm-hmm. Christening, birthdays, you know, regular life things. And I was like, suffering from anxiety. I would just felt so overwhelmed by everything and thought, how did I used to do this? And how do other moms do this? This is a lot. And so, you know, it's just kind of like, which hard do we want? Mm-hmm. And so that's kind of where we're at at the moment.
We, we know we are not ready to sell the boat just yet, but we don't know what it's going to look like in the future, because I just don't know if we can keep doing homeschool. Mm-hmm. Then you kind of ask yourself, well, are we quitting? We're not quitters. We don't wanna quit. But then sometimes you have to know when to quit and to say when things aren't working for you, especially for your mental health and mm-hmm.
To do what's right for your marriage and everything. So, uh, yeah. Look, it's, it's, um. It is amazing and we love it. And for while I know we could still be doing it in five years time. That's the beauty of it. I honestly don't know how long we'll be out here. We keep saying that we're, we're going to do it for as long as it's fun, and at the moment it's a little bit less fun.
But I know that this does go in cycles and mm-hmm. Uh, in a, in about a month's time, we head off to Italy and 'cause because being Australian, we can only be in the, in, in the EU for three months and then out for three months. So we're in, now out of the EU period for three months. We're in Africa. It's different, you know, probably a bit of culture shock.
There's not a lot for the children to do. And we're hoping that once we get back into the eu, we'll go to Sicily. There's meant to be other kids that are going to be there. And, uh, we'll fall back in love with the boat again and we'll be like, yeah, let's do it, and we'll, we'll go for another, another couple years.
But mm-hmm. I also wouldn't be surprised, and I keep putting this out to the universe and I've said this. From day one, I remember people would be like, oh, how long are you gonna sail around the world for? And I'd be like, who knows? Maybe one year, five years, 10 years, maybe something will crop up along the way.
Mm-hmm. And I'm kind of willing that something crops up and I, I am thinking, I can imagine us like manage a hotel or I can imagine us renovating a property and making it into an Airbnb or flipping real estate or something. Something. Something will come up, I'm sure. And then we'll know that. That we'll move on to the next part.
Or maybe we'll do, and this is the beautiful thing, we have options. Maybe we could do six months on the boat and six months off the boat, maybe something like that would work out. But for now, we're just gonna keep taking it as it comes. And really, I really make it a point to remind myself how fortunate we are to be out here, how amazing our life is.
Um, you know, we're in Africa. We went to the Sahara Desert a couple of weeks ago. We traveled up to Tunis, the capital and, uh, experiencing things. We're going to do a cooking class next week. Um, we are really fortunate and making the most of being out here, especially during coronavirus time because, um, the rest of Australia's stuck and pretty much locked down back in Australia.
So, yeah, very grateful.
Well, a couple of things popped up for me when you were sharing all of that. One is I have to connect you to another past guest who she and her husband, um, divide their time between. Paris, the French Alps and Corsica, and they're part of a big race in Corsica every year, a boat race.
Um, so mm-hmm. You'll, we'll have to keep plenty of stories. She's a writer. She's also, honestly, one of the people when I grow up, I hope it could be as cool as she is from like talking, writing about fashion and rock and travel. Um, but then there's also so many places in Italy now who are trying to sell their whole towns for like exactly 10, 20 grand.
And you're like, well, we bought a boat. Maybe we just buy a town.
Exactly. And that's the beauty of this thing. Those crazy things don't feel so crazy anymore.
Mm-hmm. And
those big, hairy, scary goals don't seem as hairy and scary anymore. So yeah. If nothing else has come from this, it's the fact that we now have the courage to do different things and see what happens.
Mm-hmm. And from what we've learned, I mean, sure, sometimes we might fail, but if, if it's feeling like it's aligned and it's like your sole purpose, generally it works out because the universe just figures that away for it to work for you.
I love that. You know, part of the balance, I think as well, or, or the challenges when you choose to go your own way, is that we can get caught off guard by how not supportive family and friends are.
'cause they're, they're worried about us. It's all from, from love, ultimately, but it's fear first with love underneath it. When you told your friends and family, you guys were doing this. How did they react and and how did you manage their concerns and expectations as well?
Yeah, look, they, they were definitely worried at the start.
I remember it was, uh, my family Christmas lunch. It wasn't Christmas day, but it was probably a week before Christmas. We all sat around the outdoor table and I said, oh, Dave and I have an announcement to make. And they're like, no, you're pregnant. I'm like, no, no, definitely not pregnant. No more children. Um, but we said, we're actually gonna buy a yacht and sail around the world, and everyone practically spat their drinks out.
And then everyone started laughing and my sister said, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. And we were, were like devastated. We were so excited and pumped. I mean, in hindsight, of course, they were never gonna be like, that's amazing. You take our grandchildren away and risk your life sailing across the ocean.
But kind of think that's what we were hoping, um. But you know what, that just made me 10 times more determined after that. Mm-hmm. It was like, failure is not an option. We are making this happen just so I can prove them wrong. Um, so they came around my side, particularly my dad is actually a sailor.
Nothing like what we are doing, but he's sell dinghies and he got it. I suppose probably like this long held dream that he was never able to do, uh, back in, you know, his time. It was just. I, you know, we didn't have the finances to do it, but it just wasn't something that you, we could ever have done. Um, so I think he is, he's really happy and excited for us.
Both of our moms were, were worried and still do worry. I think they've both kind of gotten used to it now. Mm-hmm. But probably even up until a month or two beforehand, they, my husband's mom wouldn't really even acknowledge it or talk about it. She kind of just acted as though it wasn't happening. And then again, she's like, I guess I better accept that you're leaving.
And yeah, so she came around. But I have definitely heard that other people have some very adverse reactions. Luckily our family overall was supportive. Worried, but supportive. Mm-hmm.
Yeah. But it, like you said, it either makes you more determined to like, prove everyone wrong or, I think it also ma allows you to realize how much you know it's the right thing to do.
You know, there's a difference between. Intuition or thinking, or feeling like sometimes you just know that's it. That's what we have to do next. And it's, I get so much peace from that feeling because there's so many times that I do make decisions and I'm like, Ooh, that's like an 80 percenter. We'll figure it out.
But when you just know deep down, like, that's exactly what we're supposed to do next, it's, it's so calming. And I think that we, we need that adversity in our, our own little hero's journey to allow it to sink in deeper for us. 'cause we have plenty of voices in our own head telling us that we're insane.
So it's, it's nice when we hear it outside, we're like, oh no, we're sure we're sure about this one.
Yeah, and I do base a lot of my decisions on my gut instinct, and I only asked my husband the other day, I was like, does everyone do that? Do you do that? He is like, I don't actually really even know what you mean.
So he, he doesn't make his decisions that way, which is. I find unusual, but I really do know that, and I think that's how I look at this. Like, deep down, I know what we're doing is right, especially for the kids. Mm-hmm. Uh, I know that when they're adults, they're gonna look back and they're gonna go, thank you so much mom and dad for doing that.
Like we had this amazing childhood, we grew up on a boat sailing around the world. Like who does that? And it's going to shape them and they're going to be, uh, problem solving, entrepreneurial, um, challenge, challenge taking risk-taking individuals because of that. So when, when sometimes I'm doubting that we're not giving them the best education or they're bored, I mean, is there even really anything wrong with board?
But I think we've just kind of come to think children should never be bored. Um, but yeah, deep down I know that, that we're doing the right thing and that it's a nice feeling.
Mm-hmm. Well, just feels nice to be living intentionally. Right, because there's so often that we wake up and don't remember why we chose this job or this town or this house or this life sometimes.
And to know that you, you chose each piece of it because you had to and Yeah. And you, and it's, I think it just gives a little bit more of that. There's that weird balance of, of freedom and confidence that comes from going through all those exercises. And especially when you have to downsize and choose what's gonna, not just things, but like what's gonna come into this next life.
'cause you're rattling off all the things that you went back. You know, and all those things don't make it on a boat. They just don't.
Yeah. Yeah. And that's it. And that's our future life is going to be built piece by piece out of intention rather than, well, this is just where I grew up, so this is where we'll live and well, I got this job, I guess I'll just stay here and work up the ladder.
And, you know, that's kind of how you make your decisions in the right race and mm-hmm. That's fine. I hate to think that people think that I'm judging the right race. I'm definitely not, but I've, I, I just can't see myself going back to that, at least not yet.
Mm-hmm. If,
if that's down the track, what we decide is best for our family, then I'm going to definitely make the most of it.
And I'm sure I'll be happy again in the rat race, but for at the moment I'm thinking. Well, if we do settle down somewhere else, we are going to get to choose what town that's in and we're gonna choose whether we get the enormous mortgage and mm-hmm. Have the nice house. Or maybe we'll just get a small house and a small mortgage because we don't need that.
We, we value, uh, you know, having money. I mean, sorry, having time and not needing so much money anymore. Mm-hmm. Um, so yeah, it is exciting knowing that we're going to design our, our future life. I suppose.
Would 8-year-old you have predicted this life?
Never. At eight years old, I used to get dragged along with dad to sailing lessons.
He used to teach Learn to sail lessons and. I was mortified because the cool kids were in their speedboats. And here I was with dad in like, you know, those hats with the flaps at the back and zinc on my nose and wearing like, you know, really old faded life jacket in little dinghies. And the cool kids were in their wetsuits and in with their stereos, blaring in their speedboats.
Mm-hmm. And I used to get teased at school. My nickname was Sailor Girl. Like crazy that it's turned out that okay, I'm a sailor girl now. It's not actually that offensive. Um, but yeah, no, I couldn't have predicted even, uh, 24 hours before.
Mm-hmm. We
watched that, that show on Netflix. If you had have told me that, that tomorrow you're gonna watch a, uh, a movie on Netflix and completely change your life and buy you on the other side of the world, I would've been like.
Did we win the lottery? Because that's insane.
Mm-hmm. You know, of course you're in the Powerful Ladies podcast and, and you were nominated to come on here because of you choosing to live your life intentionally and, and choosing both the boat life and entrepreneurship and everything that's gotten to you from there to hear and how inspiring that is for other people.
When you look around at your world, who are the people or the women who have really inspired you along the way and encourage you, like, give you the confidence to keep going?
It's a good question. Uh, I remember. In the lead up to doing this, we actually had some international students live with us for weeks, months, at a time.
They would pay rent to us and that was the way that we saved up. And I went to one of their graduations and someone was talking about success and who in your mind is successful? And at the time, and it's funny 'cause I asked my husband afterwards, and I think he was actually thinking of the same people.
Uh, it wasn't anybody famous. It wasn't um, anyone well known. We both thought about the family who had given us coaching to help us get out to do this job, I mean, to do this lifestyle. They had set up a coaching business online called Sail Totem. And they help families like ours go from basically zero to sailing.
And we both thought, you know what? They're successful because they have created. Their life by design and we hadn't yet got out on the boat. So that's, I guess, um, I look up to people like that. I actually, you know, I had a, I have a beautiful mom. My husband has a beautiful mom. Neither of them are anything like me and.
I wouldn't say, you know, I got, I definitely got loved and nurtured from them, and I'm able to now love and nurture my own children. But they weren't driven or they're not driven at all. And they were happy with a very regular life, which hats off to them. That's, it's not for everybody and I understand that.
So I, I personally can only think of one other female that, that inspired me and it was just a lady that I worked with, um mm-hmm. For most of those 17 years. Uh, and there was, I don't know what it was about her, I just liked her way and she probably taught me quite a lot because I started there when I was about 20, stayed there till I was probably 37.
And I just learned a lot from her as well. But you know, she wasn't doing anything that different or, um, anything like this, at least. Mm-hmm. So I couldn't actually tell you one person that that's inspired me, and I, I don't actually know how I got here really, because neither my husband or I have had these really influential role models.
Mm-hmm. And we do talk about that sometimes that, you know, we kind of wish that we did, but mm-hmm. We haven't yet, we still figured it out ourselves anyway.
When you hear the words powerful and the words, ladies, what do they mean to you individually and what do they mean when they're sitting next to each other combined?
When I found your podcast straight away, I disregarded the fact that it would be relevant to me because, uh, I'm not a powerful lady. I think of successful women in a, in a suit. So powerful, I think of making a lot of money and making a lot of big decisions. And ladies, well, uh, I like to think that I'm a lady, but I'm also a sailor.
So I dunno if you can have two, those two go together, uh, together. Like I said, I wouldn't have predicted that I would be a fit for that, um, type of podcast, but when I read your description and heard all about it and then started listening, I was like, oh, wow, maybe I'm a powerful lady. So that was pretty special.
Um. And then I started to appreciate that, you know, what, what we are doing, and I, I have to remember this though 'cause I often forget that what we are doing is really different. And I think the longer you do it, the the, the less I impress if. You find yourself, I suppose, until you meet someone like yourself, because some of the other podcast interviews that I do, they've interviewed other people that live on a boat, and it's not perhaps so new to them, but I'm assuming maybe I'm the first person that you've had on that actually lives on a boat, runs a business from a yacht as a sell of the world.
And so when I talk to people like you who really do seem amazed by what we are doing it, it reminds me that what we have done and have achieved and have managed to pull off so far is. Is really amazing and if I can inspire even just one other person to, to do something, and it doesn't have to be living on a boat.
It doesn't have to be sailing or even traveling the world. If it's traveling your state, if it's getting out of the house because you have not left the house for a long time because of the coronavirus and you hear this and you're inspired to, to go on a day trip, whatever it is for you, that is a big step.
Like I just wanna inspire you to, to do that because I promise you, you won't regret it. It's, it's, it is going to work out. I'm not saying to do things, uh, that are, are brush and, um, uncalculated. Like we are very calculated. We researched everything. We put in a lot of hard work to get we where we were. We didn't spy boat and sail away, and it was all just fine.
Like we did more than that. So by the time we sailed across the Atlantic Ocean, which we did after only 18 months of owning our boat, we were confident that we were gonna be safe out there. And obviously we were. Um, so I'm not saying that, but I am saying even if it seems crazy and bigger than what you can do, that's how that, this felt to me.
And yet we still managed to do it. So I'm confident that, that you can do.
Yeah, and, and it's, for me, starting the business was multipurpose, but a huge part of it was all the freedom pieces where I can work from who I'm working with. Um, how much or how little money I want to be chasing after. And it's really interesting to me.
'cause that's always been part of me. I moved my whole life growing up. I've lived abroad, like travel and ex exploration is just part of who I am. And then to meet other entrepreneurs who aren't choosing that path for that purpose. I'm always like, really, like, then why are you doing it? Because it's, you know, to me that's the benefit.
And, and using this podcast and the other coaching programs I offer to like, move people into that space of like really stepping into what they want versus just doing it to work from home or just doing it for something else. I'm like, no, there's so much more that you're not activating. Like we forget to believe things are possible and we forget to believe that you can have that whole combination.
And I think some of the challenges, like you were talking about earlier of should we keep homeschooling? How do we make this work? How do you and your husband balance your roles again, while they occur as challenges? At first, I, I think those are the parts that allow you to create this a new creative box.
'cause you can keep asking, well how do we have it all? Or how do we have as much of it as possible? Like, what would that look like? And I think it can be overwhelming when you can move anywhere in the world. 'cause there's not any pieces to make a creative choice from. We can keep asking how do we do it all?
I was talking to a friend about what it would look like to travel just the us um, for a year and work on the road. And they came back and they were like, you know, I love it, but I'm nervous about having a routine. Like, I wanna make sure that I'm still eating healthy. I wanna make sure I'm still able to, you know, work out because that, that matters to me.
And so my head instantly went to, okay, how do we build in routine? 'cause it, and, and it may be that people like you and I, when we get determined, we're like, oh, it's happening. I don't know how exactly yet, but it's happen's, happen. Uh, so for, for everyone that's listening who there's a small seed planted of like, I should start dreaming bigger, or I should start figuring out what's next.
How would you tell them what's the next step they should take? What's step two?
Yeah. And then that's really how it starts. For me. It's a siege and I feel this little sense of excitement and that's where I know to start leaning into something. Or I'll see the same kind of thing numerous times. And then I'll be like, this is weird.
Why have I seen four articles in random places about the same thing? And then I start looking into it, getting that little buzz of excitement. And then it's funny. I do think that it is kind of that symbol for me that I make the decision and then go, yeah, this is happening. Obviously when it involves my husband as well, has to be a two part decision.
Um, getting him on board as well. Um, but. I think after that we work backwards. So we figure out what we're going to do. And then if you commit to that, like failure's not an option and it's non-negotiable, you're doing that. Mm-hmm. And you speak about it like you're doing it. So don't kind of say things like, oh, if, if we buy an RV and travel America, you're like, when we buy our rv.
Live in it for 12 months in two years time. So set a date. It's really important to set a date and don't make the date too far out that you are going to lose interest because it's gonna take a lot of sacrifice and keeping that momentum going is difficult. We did it for two years and two months. Not sure I could have gone much longer because we like cut out.
All takeaway, all dinners, all buying of clothes. If we didn't need it for the boat, basically we didn't buy it. Uh, we had international students living with us. We canceled private health, we canceled subscriptions. Like we, we did so much and we saved up more money than we could ever have imagined possible.
And if we would've still been in the exact same position two years later, had we not done that and thought that we didn't have any spare money. But it's amazing what you can find. Um, so that would be my advice for the next step, is to commit to the dream, set a date, and then work backwards. Okay. To do X, we need Y.
How do we get Y? How much is it gonna cost to buy an rv? Google that. Find out. Okay. A hundred thousand dollars. I have no idea. But let's say it's a hundred thousand figure out, can you remortgage your house? Can you rent it out on Airbnb? Can you rent out a couple of rooms in the next year or two to make more money?
Uh, we took our children outta private schools and we put them into public schools. I, I applied for a promotion. Probably wouldn't have bothered doing that, but mm-hmm. But it forced me to, to do it and I got it and that bought in more money. And every time we saved a bit of money, every time we canceled a subscription, we would set up a transfer for that extra $28 or $49 or $75 and it would just go.
And we didn't really miss it because, well it was going to Netflix or it was going to whatever anyway, but we didn't have time to watch Netflix anymore 'cause we're so busy getting ready for this journey. And then when we did sit down and watch tv, we'd just watch YouTube watching all the sailing YouTube YouTubers keeping us.
Inspired and motivated. So that's another part of it. Uh, watch things that keep you on track, find someone, and this is, I think the biggest key to success in both my business and in achieving this goal is find someone who's done it and either ask them to help coach you if they don't already coach people or copy what they did to get there.
Mm-hmm. I'm not saying, obviously in a business you copy everything, but there are certain. Uh, like roadblocks to success and you don't need to reinvent the wheel. So as soon as I knew that other families were out there sailing the world, our motto kind of became, well, if they can do it, why can't we?
Mm-hmm. And so you are not gonna be the first family that is managing to travel around America in an rv, and you're not gonna be the first family to live on a boat. So find some of those idols, follow them on Instagram, follow them, um, on Facebook, pick their brains, send them messages. Like, I get messages all the time from people, and if I can just send something back that inspires them to keep going, then you know, I'm sure plenty of other people also do the same thing.
Uh, and then, um. Keep working backwards. Figure out what else do you need? What trainings do you need? What certificates do you need? What um, what are you gonna do with your house while you're away? What do you actually need in your house? Mm-hmm. You'll start to look at your property if you have one, or your rental house or like any, the stuff that you own, you'll start to look at it in a complete different way.
Do I really need that vase? Like it just sits there, it does nothing. It achieves nothing. And I started selling everything and no, no longer like being really interested. I mean, don't get me wrong. I love hazy products, I love clothes, I love shopping. But for those couple of years I was like, this doesn't serve me.
This brings me, no. Um. Uh, it gets me no closer to being on the boat whatsoever, and if I buy it, it's actually gonna make it another day or whatever until we leave. Because if I waste a hundred dollars on a rug or whatever, that's a hundred dollars less we've got to spend in the Caribbean. And it really was great motivation to, to save up.
Like I said, we managed to save up $85,000 and to us, that was just crazy money that we never dreamt we would be able to sale save. So, um, yeah, if we can do it, I'm pretty sure that plenty of other people can as well.
Well, and I know a question that people ask all the time when they're trying to figure out how to pivot to working remote is, how is internet available in all these places?
So what is your specific internet strategy?
Um, mine is really uncomplicated. I literally just buy sim cards in different parts of the world and I hotspot off my phone. So I'm doing this whole Zoom interview on a hotspot from my phone. I mean, Africa and I, the other weekend when we went to the Sahari Desert, I worked on the car on the way home while my husband drove, while we were driving through Africa, and the internet was perfect the whole way.
The internet is generally pretty amazing. All, you know, around most of the world, certainly everywhere we've been so far, it's been good enough to just work that way. We do have a, like a a 4G router, but we haven't actually had a need to use it. Um. We buy about three sim cards at a time. One goes in my husband's phone, one in my phone, one in a kid's device.
And we, I use mine. I try and not give the kids a password because last thing I need is for them to start playing a game while I'm on here now and curving the, the download speed or whatever. Um, but between us, it's, it's been enough. Their school is online. Mm-hmm. It is. Uh, and my business, it requires good internet.
I have Zoom meetings all the time, and it's good enough. So if I could run my business and homeschool free kids and like we watch Netflix and everything, I, I can't see why everyone couldn't just do, do it this way. It at the, at the minimum, if you get an extra kind of device on top of this, then I can imagine it'll only be better, but mm-hmm.
This works for us.
I love it. That makes, instantly I help. I heard everyone listening go. Oh. It's that simple. Yeah.
It's, it really is. And I still see questions about this and people kind of make it more complicated than it is. I don't know. Maybe, I mean, I'm sure if we traveled through the Pacific, it wouldn't be this simple, but certainly in Europe, this is working right now.
Fine.
Yeah. I love it. Um, so of course we wanna know what your life looks like in, in addition to work, right? Because I, I always find it amazing, no matter where you go in the world, people's days look pretty much the same. You're typically gonna wake up, eat breakfast, have your day, you're working, you're having meals as a family.
So what does your day look like and how do you stay motivated to be the mom you are and the boat girl that you are, or sailor girl that you are and you know, be this entrepreneur with the growing business.
Yeah, look, it really isn't that different to home, and I know that's not very exciting to hear, but, uh, I think what is, what we've found works is for me to work, um, uh, like a five day week and have the weekends off.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Not rocket science, but uh. And then that's the time when we try to travel. So it doesn't always work out weather-wise, but it actually has worked out a lot of the time that we stay somewhere during the week actually, we travel really slow, so we tend to stay in places for weeks, if not months at a time.
And then when we do move, we sail on a weekend and then I start working again on the Monday. Or if we go away, like, and when we go inland or like travel overland, we'll just do it over the weekend. Um, and I can often take Monday or Friday off. And uh, that's the beauty of running our own business. Also, because I'm in Europe and most of my clients are in America, I can start work at two in the afternoon and Americans are only just signing on for the day and I can work until midnight and my kids are asleep and it's quiet and I get like a lot done.
Uh, so I do have that flexibility, which I love. But generally, uh, I work. Regular hours, you know, eight till five. Uh, I stop for lunch. We try and go for exercise like at one in the afternoon. Um, so we're all kind of off the boat and mm-hmm. I'll say shaking. The kids shake their cies out 'cause they go a bit stir crazy after a little while.
Um, and then. It, it, you know, some people think, well, what's the point of living on a boat traveling the world if you're just working all the time? And there, there is a degree of that. But I do also feel like I, every, all weekend I get to do something. I mean, we have a small boat, so we don't spend a lot of time cleaning or maintaining the yards or anything like you do in a house.
Um. We also don't have all the obligatory events that you have to attend when you live on land, parent teacher meetings and school, you know, council meetings and things that you just have to fill your weekends with. We don't have those, so our weekends are literally free to just travel around and look around.
Um, but also, like, you know, at four 30 or five or whenever I finish work for the day, we can wander into town and go out for tea or, I mean, particularly here, it's really cheap. So we get the benefit of being able to eat out quite a lot, uh, and still plenty of daylight hours where you can just mm-hmm. Walk around the town and stuff.
So I do feel like I still get to experience mm-hmm. Uh, a great deal, even though I work a lot of the time. Um, and if I need to take a day off tomorrow, I literally can. And that's the beauty of having your own business.
People could say the same thing about, you know, why, why work if you live at the beach?
And you're like, yeah, but that's the thing. I stop work and I get to walk to the beach and I get to look at the beach through my window and you, I think people forget how much you're in it. Like, you can work from anywhere, but you're still there. It's still right out your front door. And with you, you actually get to feel it while you're working.
Right. There's a little, there's some rocking going on. You're really sticking to, to where you are quite often.
This, this is like swinging back, back to, but no, uh, we're in a marina at the moment, so that's not happening. It's nice and it's nice and still, but that's not fun when, when I'm like sway side to side.
And in summer it was like crazy hot in here and it was hard to, to keep working during those times. Mm-hmm. But yeah, like I can go upstairs and dive off my boat into the ocean. I can do that whenever I want. There's Penny. I don't have a Zoom meeting within 10 minutes. Or even if I do, I can just quickly jump up here and dry my hair off and I'm online again.
You know what I mean? So, mm-hmm. Uh, I do have that, but also like, we've traveled for six months at a time where we didn't work. And um, for the first year in the Caribbean, I didn't work. You can, you can have too much of a good thing. Like
mm-hmm.
I don't wanna not work. I love my job now and it gives me something that I need.
It's, it's actually not that fun having an endless holiday. I know that sounds no grateful or stupid or whatever, but it's, it's not, and I needed more than that. So I, okay. If I had my choice, perhaps, yeah. I'd work one day less a week, maybe or two at the most, but I, I don't dread go to work. So it definitely makes, makes it easier for me.
And, and I think what I also find common between people who are living their best life by design, we're, we also tend to be project based people where we need a, like, we want the next project. 'cause you're like, you just spent, well, not just, but you spent two years planning for this big project. Now it's here.
What's the next project? Because, you know, sometimes having powerful people board is more dangerous for the world. Uh, than, than not. So I, I really understand having that balance. And I think you have in common with so many entrepreneurs that I work with where we're like, okay, it's working now, it's successful.
How do we condense it? How do we get that exact balance that we're looking for? So yeah, it's, it's the normal process of, of starting a business. It's working now. It's like, okay, let me get a little bit of my freedom back. How do we get that right optimization dialed? And you know, I think you're such an inspiration for so many who are, have both know they want to be doing something different and they are hopeful that their thing is out there because I think that's also an amazing part of this story.
You never imagined starting your own PR agency. You never imagined doing this business that you now love and supports your family's lifestyle. So we don't have to know all the answers. We don't have to know exactly what's next. And just you felt that you knew something was coming, you just didn't know what, so I applaud you for proceeding into the dark hallway, waiting for the lights to turn on.
Thank you. Right. Isn't it exciting? Like, if, if I couldn't imagine doing this, imagine what the next crazy thing's gonna be. Like. Sometimes I joke to my husband, maybe we'll ride motorbikes across Africa or, and that's the thing, you know, you can just be crazy now and think up just ludicrous things because yeah, we pulled this one off so maybe we can do something else.
Mm-hmm. So, yeah, I totally agree with everything that you've said. Um, it's been really, really fun talking about it all and. I think that's the great thing about doing these podcast interviews is it helps you, uh, but remember why you did all this. Mm-hmm. Why you've worked so hard to get out here. And at the same time, I know what you mean about always like, what's the next goal?
What's the next achievement? And sometimes I think, is that a healthy thing? And I try and remind myself to like, how about to sit and enjoy this? You've pulled this off. Let's not like rush to get the next achievement is maybe it's not all about that. Maybe life's not about constantly achieving things.
Maybe it's about appreciating what you've got. And I'm really trying to be mindful about that at the moment.
Well, I know that you had some great quotes you wanted to share as well, that for everyone listening, um, do you wanna share those now?
Yeah, sure. So I mean, the, one of my favorite ones is, um, there's freedom waiting for you on the breezes of the sky and you ask, what if I fall over?
But my darling, what if you fly? And I just love that quote by a woman also called Erin Erin Hanson. And, um, I loved that for the moment I saw it and that I put that on my very first website, which is really old now, but still somewhere in the internet. Um, I also love, like, they're just pretty basic motivational quotes, but it's a slow process, but quitting won't speed it up.
And, uh, a life without love is like a year without summer. And so you can see the, the, um, the, where I would, what's the word I'm looking for, uh, the traits here. It's about positivity and. Summer, and this, this next one is when you can't change the direction of the wind, adjust your sails. So I've thrown in a boat on there as well.
So yeah, they're applicable to my life and I try and remind myself of those things.
It has been such a pleasure to talk to you. I am so thankful that I got to start my morning with you. So I'm fully inspired on this Monday. I'm about to go into, uh, the Rise and Thrive call I do with my group every week.
And so I'm just gonna bring all this energy there. Uh, so thank you for that. Um, yeah, it's just, it's nice to not only see someone who has a affinity for Stripe shirts first thing, but
Yeah. I know.
Um, but yeah, thank you for being a yes to powerful ladies, to sharing your story and to listening to your best life calling you.
Thank you so much, Cara. I really appreciate you taking the time to interview me and for my name to be associated with a podcast called The Powerful Ladies is it's something that, uh, I'm really proud of and we'll never forget
for everybody who is also inspired by you, where can they find you, follow you, and connect.
Of course. So my business, Rome generation, it's ROAM, which also happens to be the name of our boat is www.romegeneration.com. And on all socials it's at Rome generation. And so that's where you can connect with me for anything to do with, um, public relations for, like I said, travel, leisure, and luxury brands.
And then if you just wanna hear, keep following along with our, on our story about our story. Uh, it's sailing to Rome, so sailing, T-O-R-O-A-M, and that's again on Facebook and Instagram. Um, and there you'll just find photos of our, of our journey and trials and tribulations of our crazy life sailing around the world with three kids on board.
Amazing. Thank you so much. I can't wait to connect with you in the future and get an update.
Thank you for listening to today's episode. All the links to connect with Erin are in our show notes@thepowerfulladies.com slash podcast. So you can also leave comments and ask questions about this episode. Want more powerful? Ladies, come join us on Instagram at Powerful Ladies, where you can also find free downloads.
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