Episode 120: Building a Business with Your Sister | Carolina Trejos & Natalia Trejos | Founders of Pinkafé
I am proud to bring you two powerful women, sisters Carolina Trejos and Natalia Trejos, founders of the Pinkafé platform, podcast, and TV show. We talk about their journey from Ecuador to the United States, where they find the confidence to be entrepreneurial and chase their dreams, and why it matters that more women know they are magic, they are capable, and they are not alone. Carolina and Natalia share the story behind launching Pinkafé, how they use media to amplify women’s voices, and the importance of representation in entrepreneurship. We discuss building community, embracing your heritage, and creating platforms that inspire action and confidence in women around the world.
“Dreamers and doers are always going to be criticized. It’s about following what’s really in your heart.”
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Carolina - journalist and co-founder of Pinkafe
Natalia - actress, producer, co-founder of Pinkafe
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Chapters
00:00 Meet Carolina Trejos and Natalia Trejos-Herrera
03:25 Growing Up in Ecuador and Moving to the U.S.
07:10 How Pinkafé Began
11:40 Building a Media Platform for Women
15:20 The Power of Representation in Entrepreneurship
19:00 Why Women Need to Hear “You Are Magic”
22:45 Lessons from Building a Brand with Your Sister
26:10 Overcoming Challenges in Media and Business
30:15 Creating Community and Inspiring Action
34:50 Balancing Creativity, Business, and Family
38:20 Advice for Women Chasing Their Dreams
I think one thing for me that has always helped me and guided me is to really believe, believe, believe, believe that I can do it. Believe in my dreams, believe that I, I always feel like I always had the vision because since I was a little girl, I always knew what I wanted.
That's Carolina REOs and Natalie REOs Herrera, and this is The Powerful Ladies Podcast.
Hey guys, I'm your host, Kara Duffy, and in this episode, I am so proud to bring you two powerful women, two powerful sisters, and a powerful duo, Carolina Trejos and Natalie Trejos Herrera, founders of Pink Cafe, the platform, the podcast, and the TV show. We discuss their journey to the US where they find the confidence to be entrepreneurial and chase their dreams.
And why it matters that more women know they are magic, they're capable, and they are not alone. That is also why I created my Thrive membership. You can create your dream business. You can live your dream life. Join us our weekly coaching sessions, monthly business and empowerment workshops, and join a global community of women stepping into their power living authentically.
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Well, welcome to the Powerful Ladies Podcast. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you for having, I'm really excited to have you guys today. We have lots of powerful women and we've had power Couples on, but this is our first Power Sister couple that we get to have on the podcast.
We're very excited. Thank you so much. Yeah,
of course. Let's begin. Please tell everyone who you are and what you're up to. We can start with Carolina.
Okay. Well thank you Kara for having us on the Powerful Ladies Podcast. I am a journalist. I am born and raised in Columbia, and I'm the co-founder of Pink, A platform for women who we're also telling women's stories.
And yeah, I co-hosted with my sister. Hello everyone. I'm Natalia Rejo Herrera. Um, and I am an actress and a producer, and I, uh, co-produced the TV show and podcast with my sister Carolina, who is also here. And I'm very, very excited to be here.
Well, and you guys have such a fascinating story, right? Going from, uh, Columbia and then I believe stopping in Ecuador and then coming to the us.
Is that correct? Okay. That's right. Making sure I, I have my homework in correctly.
Yes.
So, um, since you've been, was coming to the US always part of your, your dream or your story, or did that happen by circumstance?
Um, coming to the US was really not our decision. It was our parents' decision because we came when we were still teenagers.
Mm-hmm.
And our parents, um, we were in Ecuador at the moment and they got the opportunity from my aunt who was already here like. 20 years before, you know, we came and she's like, there's an opportunity to come to the u us for a better, better life for your daughters. And at that moment in Ecuador, uh, was going, you know, Ecuador was going through like a crisis, economic crisis.
And then my dad was like, oh my God, this is the opportunity. And then they just, you know, told us to pretty much pack our bags and then we're going to the United States. And he, we, when, when he said that the only thing we kind of knew about United States was Britney Spears, Backstreet Boys, and Disney World.
So we were learning songs like more time, like we didn't know English and we thought we were going to Disney World. So we're like, okay, we're good. Then we came here and we never went back. That's the story.
And
have you gotten pretty much sums it up?
Yeah. Yeah. And of course like, have you gotten to meet Britney Spears or the Backstreet Boys yet?
Not yet. Not yet. Okay. I've written a lot of stories about them, but not I, in my entertainment journalist background, I've written so many stories about them and I was like, one time I was writing a story about Britney Spears and, uh, you know, this situation that she was going through and I was like, wow. I remember when I used to listen to Britney Spears just, and I didn't even know English.
We were just kind of. Like my sister said, just a libing ad-libbing or trying to, to just sing, to sing along. But then that was actually, at least for me, what helped me to learn a little bit of English, just like reading and reading the lyrics, singing the songs. So, yeah, I guess she plays a, a really big part in, in her background.
Yeah. We, we learn English with them. With them, I think. And even with Jeannie in the bottle, Christina Gui at the same time. Yeah. I think JLo also came out with her, her album around that time. Mm-hmm. And we were like, figuring out the words. We, we basically, we knew a little bit 'cause our parents were always like, I don't know if they had division, they didn't tell us, but they were like, study English, study English on the weekends, da da da.
And they were like, okay, she's practicing tennis, she's cooking like little things like that. And we kind of knew some verbs and words. And then we kind of started putting it together with the songs and, and then with the dictionary trying to find the, the meaning of these words. And then it was pretty interesting that after everything came together, when we came here, like within six months, Carolina was running.
Like, she was like little bilingual. And then I took her longer. That's why I have a thicker accent in Carolina because I came right at the end of high school. So I didn't really come to high school here. Carolina was able to come four years in high school, so she, she became more like proper bilingual.
I'm still working on it. Thank you.
Yeah. You know, when you guys are doing so much, excuse me, you guys are doing so much. You have the, um, company together. You're entrepreneurs, you have other things you're doing, you know, is that how you were raised? Is that how your family is? Like do you come from a family of entrepreneurs and people who do all these things and kind of like live into.
Basically, whatever it is that is calling to you all at once, or is that unique to the two of you in your family?
I'll take this one. I think we, our parents are very entrepreneurial. My dad was always in sales. She, he was always the motivational speaker. He was always the one that was wanting to move forward.
That's why I think we, mm-hmm. Are still okay with moving from city to city, from country to country, and starting over because my dad, I think that was kind of ingrained in our, in our heart, in our brain and our soul ever since. Our dad thought us to, Hey, we're picking up our backs and moving to a new country, to, from Columbia to Ecuador, from Ecuador to, uh, the state.
And my mom also has a very entrepreneurial spirit. She was also, you know, the, uh, very organized, she was all about business. And also being, uh, right there with my dad, just kinda like pushing it. My dad would be like, okay, I have this new idea, we can move. And my mom was like, let's go Baus. Let's go for it.
And she was always there. So both of them were really like, okay, we're starting over. No worries, let's go. So I think both of us kind of got that, that spirit in us. Okay, it's okay to start something new. It's so, it's okay to start a new project or even quit your job, or if you're not. Contempt with where you, how your career path is going right now.
It's okay to just completely start a new career. So I think, yeah, it's, they both our parents peppered a little bit of their entrepreneurial spirit and us, and I think that's why even Pink Cafe was born from my mom's passion for design and passion for getting women together. And so yeah, definitely we, I say that we have it, we get it from our parents.
Yeah. Yeah. Same. Yes. Yes. Mm-hmm. I think that, um, our education was really, um, a way multicultural and also like really like with a lot of variety. We moved from country to country, from city to city, and within the, the city, especially in Guayaki, in Ecuador, we went through like. Eight different schools, uh, with elementary and then, uh, high school.
And then we came here. We also went through another four or five different schools and, and cities. And within Chicago when we came, I think all of that, we were kind of like, um, grabbing skills and knowledge and culture from different places. And we're like, okay, what can we do now that we are in the future?
Sort of, um, you know, what can we do with all these skills, uh, and make it, you know, make something nice, make something happen. But one thing that I think our parents, uh, engraved in us, and I think to just wrap up Carolina's, uh, subject is like, always do something with purpose and deliver a message. And Carolina and I, with our careers, we're like, okay, we are, um, you know, yes, we're entrepreneurs, but we're first in media acting, producing journalism.
It's always delivering these messages, but always, you know, with a positive impact. And then I think that's ulti our ultimate mission just to, whatever we do, it has to be with a message and then that's what we're passionate about.
No, I had a very similar, um, upbringing, didn't move countries, but was in like 11 schools and moved lots of cities and states and I can't imagine a life background not having that because it showed me so early that like I could talk to anybody, we could go end up anywhere.
Like it would be okay. Like there were so many interesting people and experiences that there's a resiliency I think that gets built in, um, you know, to us at that young age where it's like, it's okay. Like that whole, let's do it. My parents have, their little slogan is like, it's adventure. And so just like, you know, your mother would be saying, you know, vaminos, my mother would be like, it's okay, George.
It's an adventure. Right? And we would just go and I think there's, yeah, it was always positive, right? It was never like, it was never a negative connotation that we were moving again. It was like, no, like there's a new adventure, there's new experiences, like, let's see what's over there. Um, it may have ingrained a little bit too much of me being like, well wait, what's over there?
Um, so, you know, feeling like I can't sit still sometimes. But, um, I think, I think it's so powerful to have that and how it does lead to an entrepreneurial perspective. Uh, 'cause if you can move anywhere, you can make anything, you can talk to anyone. And those really are the core fundamentals of chasing after what you want.
Definitely. Exactly. Definitely.
Exactly. We definitely relate with that because we have heard, you know, people who had sort of the same situation with different schools and they sort of regretted or they are. Um, you know, oh, if I wish I would've had a, a just a permanent only one childhood in one neighborhood.
And, um, we kind of have helped them open their eyes. It's like, no, no, no. You've seen so many lives, so many aspects, so many backgrounds that use of, you know, in, in your present. And, uh, we can say that a few of those people, we, we think that they have something has changed, something clicked. Um, and also other people that were like only one school, one high school, and one college, and that's it.
You also see their personality and how they're maybe a little more afraid to jump in and jump out. So, you know, at the, at the end of the day, you have to take what you know, what works for you and then just run with it. But the most important thing is to dare and continue. Yeah. And I feel like the dreamers and doers, or people, I guess like us that just start something new, they always, we're always gonna be criticized.
I feel like I, I have been criticized by my friends kind of saying, God, when are you gonna, you moved from New York to LA to Miami to when are you gonna settle? When are you gonna finally, you know, just get married and have kids and have, you know, maybe have your own, um, have a job, a permanent job at a company.
And at first, before I kind of gained some con, gained some confidence in what I was doing, I, that would really get to me. But nowadays it's like, no, hey, thank you so much for your opinion. I appreciate it. Mm-hmm. But at the same time, um, they kind of come to me and I'm kind of like a, the escape, a little bit of escape route.
Like, oh, you got to do what I, what I wanted to, you got to, you know. Travel and see so many cities and you know, so yeah, we're always gonna also deal with a lot of criticism, you know, the dreamers and the entrepreneurs, but at the same time is about following, you know, follow, following what, what's really in your heart.
Yeah. And I don't know about you guys, but I couldn't imagine not following my heart because my heart is very persistent and loud. Yes.
If I'm not listening,
like it will let me know I am not listening.
Mm-hmm.
Wow. Yes. Yes. I think that's one thing that we are, um, we are always, that we always go by, by our hearts.
Right now in the present, I can say that right now what we're doing and focusing on is listening to Carolina's and Natalia's Heart together and joining. I Can I get you right? Does it, is it okay to cry? Podcast? Okay. Of course. We are criers today. No, I think that, I think that right now, um, what we're focusing on is that because we, what happened was that we were, we were brought to the United States.
We were only together for the, we've been here 21 years, right? We came right before 2000, and we've been, we were together for like about four years. Um, you know, that beginning, you know, learning English, understanding the mail, taxes, um mm-hmm. The street, everything that we were never introduced before and being, you know, young adults.
And then we were separated by life and then, you know, mm-hmm. I went to Miami, from Chicago to Miami to live and pursue, um, my, the, in beginning of my career. And then, um, we were kind of like in, in Carolina. Carolina stayed in, in high school and then we kind of like grew apart. We grew apart for like the last, I don't know.
10, 15 years and then just the last few years we kind of been coming together for Pink Cafe and then, but now after Carolina left her nine to five. A year and a half ago, I mean, but minus the pandemic year. So really six months ago, because we're like 2020 does not count. Does not count. So it was really like November, 2019 plus the months from this year.
So it's like six months. Um, and then right now it's, we're like, okay, we grew apart and then so we're learning to know each other again. It's weird 'cause we, we were treating each other like the little girls in Ecuador in the beginning of the United States we're like, wait, you like that? Oh, I didn't know you do these processes.
Oh, I didn't. So we are going through that and then we're like, okay, we're learning about our skills. Now let's listen to our adult hearts. Mm-hmm. You know, women hearts. What do we really wanna, I'm married Carolina Single, uh, and, and all these things that we're kind of like getting to know and, and listening to our heart.
So I I really, that really touched my heart when you say that because we're like, because I touched my heart. My, my heart tells me what to do and, and Natalia and myself and my career with my husband or with my dreams, and same thing with Carolina. And she, she felt like she needed to do this. She does it, but how about both of us and plus the purpose and the company and we're gonna touch women and that's scary.
Or it is all these things that is really like, you know, it goes deeper, you know? So I was just gonna add that it just doesn't always happen at the first time, you know, the first try because we've tried to work together so many times in those period of. Uh, 10 years that we were just living in different cities, living in, uh, you know, Natalia got married.
I was moving from, from city to city, just pursuing, we're both pursuing our dreams and still we're coming back and kept on, okay, let's work on this together. But then just life happened and it would, it wasn't the moment and then years later, okay, let's try this again. And it just wasn't the moment until years later, I think it was third time's a, a charm.
Finally, we got together and it's like, okay, this is the moment we can both, uh, listen to each other, start getting to know each other professionally and also personally too, because we've always been very close, very, very close, but in a professional level, we have been kind of like never working together.
So it's, it's a new journey to, to come together and, um, unite all of our passions and our dreams right now.
Yeah. And, and how great is it? You know, I, I have a lot of clients who will say. You know, should I hire my sister? Should I hire my friend? Should I hire these people that are, that really matter to me?
Because we hear these horror stories about working with family and friends, and I always tell them, I'm like, at least interview them, like put them through the same steps because, you know, whether it's a work thing or it's a life thing, it's all about communication. So why wouldn't you wanna build your dreams with the people that you already love and trust and respect and care about?
There's just a few things to put in place, right, about like really deciding relationship versus business and what comes first and how, if you can kind of talk about how you're gonna navigate through those things, um, why wouldn't you want to build things with your favorite people? Um, so I'm, it's really, I'm really happy to see you guys doing that, to see clients of mine doing that, and often creating breakthrough success.
Because people know you at a different level, right? Like there's a, you almost have not just a, a friend or a sister, but suddenly you have someone who can coach you at a different level. 'cause they know you, right? They can call you out when you're like, Hey, I think you can be braver right now. Or, Hey, like, I got this, like, you can trust me, right?
Because there's so many things that come up in work where you have to be like you times 10. And when you have those people that you really trust, like you can actually rely on them and collaborate at a completely different level. What has the experience been for you guys, you know, going from your, your careers and your other dreams to working together?
Like how has it different working on this together than when you've worked with other people?
I can start because I have to give it to my sister. Not only, I love her to death because she's so wise, such a wise woman. Uh, she's my older sister, so I listen to her a lot. But she, she has coached me through this process because she's always been an entrepreneur.
My sister, ever since we were little, she was like, I'm gonna go to Hollywood and I'm gonna make movies and I'm gonna make my own way. Right. I was always more like, okay, I'm gonna go to school. I'm gonna go to college. I'm gonna get a job. I'm gonna get a, a wonderful job more. I was more on the safe side always, and Nati was more entrepreneurial all the time until I started kind of like, okay, I tasted this, I tasted that.
I got my wonderful corporate job, dream job. But I, when I was at that job, kind of at the peak of my career, I was like, okay, what else is out there for me? I wanna do something more. Just that I'm more passionate about. I was passion, passionate, I was passionate about that one job, but I wanted to also, you know, change lives and tell stories of women tell, just kinda change the world.
That has always been kind of like in my heart, I was like, I wanna do something that's good for humanity that's gonna really create an impact. So when my sister, she was always there, she was like, Hey, good job. You got this new job. Hey, what about if you, you know, we start working on this project together.
What about if, um, have you ever thought about, you know, just starting something else or going on your own? And I, I kind of, I, I had already been thinking about it and then until I made that decision and I said, okay, I'm gonna take a leap of faith and I'm gonna jump into entrepreneurship. I was like, I don't know what entrepreneurship is, but I'm gonna do it.
So it was so amazing to have that helping hand from my sister just to being like. You can do this. And I had my times, I still have my moments that I'm like, okay, well how do you do this? How do you do this again? How do you do planning long time? That's a, that's one of our big things because Natalia, do you know her, her career path and her, you know, she's a producer and actress, they plan way more in time.
You know, they plan ahead a lot more. Me, I, I've been more into breaking news and live TV and like, okay, we gotta write this because it's gonna be published tomorrow, or I gotta write this because we are going live in five hours, you know, so I'm like used to working just to kind of like a shorter, shorter time periods and Natalia's more, you know, planning long term.
So, um, I feel like I've definitely, I have been really blessed that I've had my sister to kind of help me out in my, you know, jumping from corporate to entrepreneurship. So, thank you sister. You are welcome. You are very welcome. And, uh, I mean, for me it's been, um, it's been a really beautiful journey.
However, it's been a new one too, because same thing, you know, very hard to separate the, the sister with the professional. Mm-hmm. Um, and their respect, making sure their respect is always there. Um, making sure that, you know, she's respecting my boundaries and my, um, professional skills, and then also hers.
And also understanding, you know, that we're not just the sisters at the moment of the job and when we're working, we are two professionals. So sometimes we have had to go through the exercise. Don't take it personal in both ways. I'm not saying just Carolina. Mm-hmm. Same thing with, with me. Um, don't take it personal because you, I call it cold, cold hearted or just cold.
Yeah. Like, okay. Okay, cool. Thank you. Bye. That's it. Like, not like, okay, love you sister, da, da. All these things that sometimes you add to it. It is like, okay, when you're sending in emails and, and just making things happen, it's like, you know, sometimes in production you are dealing with timing, so it, everything is like timed out, time out know.
So, you know, there's that. I think as soon as Carolina came in and then she's like, okay, let's do this. I went too hard and just like, let's, let's take action and I didn't probably stop and what you said was so powerful. I'm like, oh, that's genius. I didn't do that. Interview her.
Mm-hmm.
So that I can take her hand and walk her through it.
We kind of did, because we did job descriptions, but I don't think we were ready and we didn't pay attention all the way. Plus it was right away when the pandemic hit. So, 'cause she quit on, uh, in November, then it's the holidays, then it's January. In the beginning February we were kind of like breathing and then March.
Mm-hmm. The day of my birthday 13, March 13 is, we started really sad. But anyway, that's an also, uh, and then so we really, we really didn't have the time or the chance to actually do all of that walkthrough. But I think right now what we kind of like after the whole year going through pandemic slash entrepreneurial, but you cannot network, you cannot do events, you cannot do anything.
So it's like. Okay, why are we doing, uh, we, however, managed to still do the TV show 'cause thank God to the network, they pushed us. And then, uh, we already had the, the podcast. So, okay. Those things were there, but we were, they were a little blurry in my eyes, you know, they were like, they're there, but not really.
And then we didn't really know how to manage it. 'cause everything blew up on us right away. We're like, we just wanted a podcast, TV show, what, all these things. And then that's where we kind of like started learning more about each other and like, oh, so you have these skills and I you have this other, so we started getting interested in each other, like, okay, tell me what is planning?
How do you start? Tell me what, then I come out with the production book and then the pages and the binder, and then the little drawing board. And she's like, whoa. And then I'm like, okay, teach me how is breaking news? No, no, you just do this, this. And then you do the question and you, you show up and then you ask the question.
So the guest.
Wait, wait, wait. What? What questions? Number one. Number two, like, I was just so slow and then I'm like, oh my God, I have to appreciate her skills and hopefully she appreciates mine. And then I think we'll be, we will be a powerful couple really. Yeah. So I think fast forward to now, to now make the long story short is that we kind of like, you know, placed, um, we went back to the drawing board on the job descriptions and understanding more.
We did take a pause as far as like, 'cause Pink Cafe had to continue no matter, but as far as like developing old so many dreams at the same time or like, okay, let's do one thing at a time. Develop one thing at a time, and then now we're like, okay, we are really understanding our boundaries and our, our own careers and when do we come together?
And, and I think the bottom line, removing all of that has been our love for each other. No matter what. No Pink Cafe, no career, no nothing could really replace the love first. So we said in that, I don't know, we haven't like put a clock on it, but like it's, it's, it's, I'm sure it is already a hundred percent like that, that we um, we set our love for sisters is first.
Mm-hmm. And, and, um, no matter what, no matter what, we'd rather not do Pink cafe if it's going to damage our relationship. Or if it's going to cause problems between us. 'cause we, we'd rather be sisters first. Mm-hmm. Because it's also our parents and then our families. It's all these things. It's like we're on the, we are in this together.
So, yeah, I think that that was the thing. But once we said that, the businesses started flowing very nicely and then it's beautiful and it's perfect. And it, and it was just a little, a lot of like life and transitions that we were going through and we, we call it like PTSD after the whole corporate thing.
And then also me getting another life in my routine, you know? 'cause I was solo with my husband, but like, you know, and I, and I work with my husband, but at the same time it's like, I was just like running on my own and Carolina too. So we're like, okay, how do you, it's like a marriage, you know? You have to get to know each other.
So I think that, yeah, I think that number one love and number two respect. And the rest, you know, you can do it.
Well, you guys have touched on so many things that are core into why I make what I make and why powerful ladies exist as well. You've mentioned, you know, being a dreamer and a doer and, you know, sharing people's stories and showing them what's possible.
Um mm-hmm. And, and for me it really is, um, a place of love and commitment. Right? It breaks my heart when I hear a woman say, I can't, or it breaks my heart when somebody wants to give up on their dream because they just don't know how. Like, that's what leads all of my coaching businesses, right? It's like, no, no, no.
Like I know how to do it. Like, let me show you how. Right. Um, when, when you're coming up with, with Pink Cafe and you decided to do it, like what was the, the frustration or the pain point that you guys were like, we have to do this because, like, what was the, what was the missing in the world where you knew the world needed Pink Cafe?
I think, um, it is understanding our why. Why are we doing this? I think that's exactly your question. Um, but I think what we said that was missing was more representation, more Latina representation. Yes. But also in general, really good empowerment information for women. Mm-hmm. We felt that, um, a lot of what's out there for women is just, um, makeup, fashion, and really quick things, recipes, extras, but not really like touching the problems and, and what is in your heart, you know, like from how we were raised and, and how can we unlearn things from culture that our parents and our families engraved in us.
And also issues, um, you know, that. We all go through and then we are quiet. So we said, you know what? I think that Pink Cafe can be the bridge, uh, to actually unite different cultures and be able to speak up and bring these subjects to, you know, out there so that we can have a conversation and we can really, uh, put into the light.
I think that's kind of like a little recap, but Carolina probably can explain to more. Yeah. I think when we realized that a lot of women were going through just different life situations or life moments, beautiful. And at the same time, frustrating at times, you know, like a job change, like a marriage, like we were, we said, okay, what is missing here?
Because we started, we did our research. We're like, maybe we can collaborate with another platform. Maybe we can, you know, just. Not to start something from scratch, but collaborate. But we were like, okay, I feel like there's something here. There's a need. There's a need. Like Nati said, uh, we wanna be that, that bridge between different cultures, but at the same time, we wanna offer through women's stories.
We wanna offer just different tips and tricks about just how it is to thrive in your job, in your career. Start something new, but at the same time, taking care of your, your health, your mental health, your physical health. We wanna be that one platform that also teaches you about having balance, because we have to, we have had to learn the hard way.
Also, we've been through, you know, just burnout or moments where we kind of don't pay attention to an, an issue that's very important for, uh, health issues or something like that to be focusing on work. So when we started going through a lot of these things ourselves, we're like, okay, we need to start first sharing our story second.
Interviewing other women that also have different stories. And through all these different stories and information, we can find that that balance and we can help other women just how to navigate through life and, you know, not neglect one, one side and embrace both, both of your sides, your business side and your personal side.
So I think that was, that was the, the why we wanted to kind of have this, this marriage between the information and, you know, just provide it for women.
Yeah. I know that when I started down this journey, uh, the part that has, you know, made me just light up that we were, you know, that I was doing it, that we made the podcast, that we had our membership.
Like every time I see a woman who shares the story where she's moved, right? You said, can I cry earlier? And I'm like, yes, please. If we're crying, we're talking about real stuff. Like, yes. Um, but I just love seeing the, the echo. That's in the world. Either going out from a conversation we've had or the little bit that I get bounced back where I'm like, yes, okay, this is why we're doing this.
Um, what have been some moments through Pink Cafe where you've you've gotten that reassurance that we are doing the right thing?
Oh wow. Uh, actually just recently we put a post on social media, very innocently 'cause we've gone through this. And, um, the post, it was a, a little clip of the, a video from the TV show that said, um, something that happened to us a lot, especially with our family or our.
Circle. Even Carolina mentioned earlier about like, Hey mha, when are you getting married? When are you having kids? You are already, you know, um, you are already older. When are you doing this? When are especially that subject with kids. Um, we've gone through it so much, so much. And then Catalina is single.
And then is when are you having a boyfriend? When are you getting married? When are you getting engaged? Then married is like, it never ends. I'm married. When are you having kids? Why don't you have kids? So, and we had to stop our parents and we're like, okay guys, we are older. We are our own, you know, person.
We can think and we can decide for ourselves, not society and not you guys. It was hard. And of course I'm doing a quick recap right now. It was really touchy, really cute with them because for them it's their dream. They're like, but all my, my neighbors and all my family has, uh, grandchildren. Where are my grandchildren?
Blah, blah, blah. We're like. Um, maybe never, you know, and it's hard. It's really, especially for Latino families. Mm-hmm. So to make the story short, we put that post where, where like we were saying exactly this, oh my God. We went through it with our parents and then so many people out there in Carolina said something like, we have choices and we can, you know, we can decide when to get married, when to have kids, when to do everything.
And when we posted that, we saw the reaction of a lot of women, 'cause our, we've been picking up back in, in our social media, so it's been slowly but surely getting their people comments and stuff. But this one post was like, blew up and then people shared it instead. The one that has the most shared. Uh, views and stuff.
And then we were like, oh my God, we kind of like, there's something created a little monster and the people is talking about, about that. And then they were like mad in a way. Like mm-hmm. I relate so much. Society cannot dictate your future. Yes. My pa my family did that to, uh, to me and da, da da. And probably some people will, will see it and they don't comment, but they're like, I had children because my parents told me.
No, I'm just kidding. I don't know their, their reality, but probably a lot of people just settle. They just settled. Mm-hmm. Because since my sister did it, since my aunt did it, my cousin did it, then I have to do it because that's normal and that's what society dictates. Mm-hmm. So you just get a job, then you just have children and you buy a house and a dog and you're happy forever.
And that's definitely enough not to say that that's not the right thing to, to do, you know? I was going to say exactly that. That is beautiful if that's your dream. Because there I have friends that their dream is to be a mom and have a house. I'm like, oh my God, that's beautiful. And that's okay. But that's, that hasn't been Carolina's and mine, uh, path or our dream first, because it is still our dream too.
Just not first.
Mm-hmm.
And then, so that, that was pretty, pretty impactful. And so when we, to answer your question, um, when we saw that, we're like, oh my God, we are doing something that is really changing lives and, and making people think. So we really like that. What do you feel Ka with with that kind example, or if you have a different example?
No, I was actually gonna mention the same, we're we're very connected. We, I was gonna mention the same example because going back to the parent situation or the society pressure, you know that mm-hmm. Sometimes women have, sometimes I think when, way back in the day. If you were 20 something, 25 and you weren't married and had kids already, it was a big deal, you know, in your family.
Uh, now, okay, it's a little more normal if you're early thirties or you're 30 and you're starting to start a family and stuff like that. But, um, we actually went back to our parents and were like, Hey, you guys were the ones who said, you guys go to college first. Make sure you study. You create your own empire.
You create your, you make your own money. You're an independent woman before you can rely on a man or before you, you know, just, uh, they put, don't get pregnant. There's the same in Spanish. Don't get pregnant. Put or put rocks in your pockets. I don't know if it's the same saying in, in English. Okay, so kind of like, yeah, do not put rocks in your pockets.
You can actually fly. You know? So whenever they would see us kind of like, you know, dating a boyfriend that wasn't like, eh, they're like, okay, look at your future. Make sure you know, you know what you're doing now, and stuff like that. So we went back to them. We're like, you guys created these, these monsters you guys created these.
Independent, powerful women with big dreams, you know? And I do want kids, I, if I can find, I have a boyfriend now, but if I could like get married and have kids, I want kids soon, you know? Mm-hmm. But maybe my, my path is, you know, God will decide when I will find all of that, you know? So we had to tell 'em, Hey, this is happening for us.
Just not now. You guys actually told us to be independent and create something for yourself. So that was what we're doing. So you guys hold on, on the, on the grandchildren topic, you know, so, yeah. And they were like, definitely, oh yeah, we did that. And then they were like, okay, we understand. And they were so cute.
They understood. They're like close on the subject of the grandchildren and asking, and then now they're like traveling the world because if the children come, we'll come back and visit you. But not like waiting. 'cause they actually, when they moved to LA. Not that I moved, just so that I can, they can take care of my children, but sometimes some little sentences, some here and there is like, I'm already here in LA so in case that you have, I'm already here, I can help you to LA to help me with my children that I don't have.
It was hilarious. But, but now they're, they're good and they're better. And they're, they're now, again, boyfriend, girlfriend, my parents Cute. They are 40 cute years together, and then they're just traveling and stuff. Um, so they're retired and they're super happy and they're, they're proud and we wanna continue making them proud.
But yeah, for sure we are educating them so they can also educate other families who, who are going through it and that we've been going through it together and, um, yeah, to, to just let people choose, you know, and not pressure so much. Sometimes parents, you know, pressure and then. Unfortunately, some kids listen and they wanted to be a lawyer and they end up being a doctor because their parents was a doctor and stuff like that.
So for us is, is our message too. You know, just let it go, let it fly and we'll see. We'll see what, what, you know, what life brings so
well and there, and there's so much in that as well of like choosing the small things too, right? Because whether it's our parents or our friends or society or you name it, there's so much pressure, I think, on all of us to do these things that we should, when I always am telling people like, don't do what you should do what you could.
Right? Like, what do you really want? And there's a couple exercises I'll take people through of really looking at everything in your life and being like, did you choose it? It's not wrong or right, but did you at least choose it? Did you choose that city? Did you choose your house? Did you choose even what you're eating sometimes?
Right? Like there's so many things that happen to us throughout a day and a month and a lifetime that we don't actively choose. We don't stop and say, wait, do I want this? Like, it just showed up and now I'm swept up into it. And it can happen with relationships or careers or all sorts of things. And it can be intimidating, I think for people who haven't gone through a process of really looking at their life and being intentional.
But once you do, like, it's one of the core things that I see over and over again with successful people like yourselves and others. It's like you're, you're choosing it. Like you're being really active in, is this what I want? And if you want it, like, okay, we're gonna go a hundred miles an hour, let's go.
And there's something about that, you know, that flying that you were talking about. You know, when when there's momentum and it's lighter. You know, people ask like, what's, you know, how do you know the universe has your back? And I'm like, well, I don't know. But when I, when my pockets are lighter, when I'm, I'm moving with, with speed and momentum, like things happen that I don't know if they would have otherwise.
Mm-hmm. Um, has that, has that been your experience as well?
Uh, yes. I think we all have to move at the speed that, that our heart tells us to, but at the same time, I feel like lately, um, maybe it's my own experience, but also being in, we're all in this social media, uh, spectrum. It's a whole world and sometimes it could be a little too much or a lot of information just go in different ways.
And I've also heard it from women just to kind of be devil's advocate as well. I've heard it from women who. Who love their nine to five job, who mm-hmm. Do not necessarily want to go the entrepreneurial way. Who started, uh, maybe, um, this journey through health or changing their, the, the, their eating habits, but at the same time they can eat out during the weekend.
You know, so there's, for some reason I've seen this kind of culture that, okay, you have to do all these things, or you have to be superwoman and you have to be, but at the same time, okay, if you don't wanna be that it's your choice to also love your corporate job, keep escalating the corporate ladder, you know, just keep pursuing that as long as it's what's in your heart, what's in your dream, and what is, what's gonna really move you and what you're passionate about, you know?
Yes, definitely. I think, uh, for me, uh, I mean I'm, I'm in a hundred percent agreement with, with Carolina, but I think one thing for me that has always. Help me and guide me is to really believe, believe, believe, believe that I can do it, believe in my dreams. Believe that, uh, there is one thing in, in the Bible that is like, it's already done.
So when you are able to understand that and really run with it, I think for me, again, I, I always feel like I always had the vision because since I was a little girl, I always knew what I wanted. I wanted to be an artist and I wanted to, I didn't know I wanted to be a producer that just kind of like developed, but I always wanted the arts in, in that.
So when, when talking about like, don't put your, your, you know, don't put rocks in your pocket so you can fly and really fly was really, you know, understanding that going back to the little girl and always, what do I really want? What, where are you going? You know, how are you going to make that happen? But then it's like, do you believe that you can be an actress?
Do you believe? And as I grew up older, okay, I can be a producer, I can make things happen. So, but it was, it's, it's been always like believing and also helping others believe too, in themself. I have also feel really passionate about, um, helping others, you know, uh, believe that they can do it and pushing them and guiding them too.
I, I relate a lot with you too in, in your coaching because mm-hmm. Not that I have an official co coaching business, but innocently with words and some things that I say, but also like leading by example, by living the way that I live, I have been able to help others and they actually go and take action.
And the way that has worked for me is that I have always had a plan. From early, early in early age, even if it was a vague plan or wanna be an artist, wanna be a singer, an actress, the art, how does that work? How does it, so it's always been a little, um, Kato a little path. Mm-hmm. And like with steps and stuff like that.
But it's always been, like you said, my choice. Like it's my choice. Because I've been in crossroads where it's like, mm-hmm. You have a choice right now. You get to pick, to be an artist who is uncertain, you don't know. Or you can go and work at the reception they're offering, offering you a job at the reception desk of somebody.
And then you can become a, I don't know, lawyer. Who knows? I never wanted to be a lawyer, but, 'cause I always wanted to be an artist. So anyway. But other people wanted to do choices for me. Mm-hmm. And I had to fight and I have to like, no, I am certain that I wanna be an artist. Are you sure? 'cause that's not secure.
Yes. And then I took that road and it was bumpy and it was hard at first 'cause it was my early twenties. I'm in my mid thirties, so it's been a long time. So, but I, I am, I feel now, now that I'm in this future and, and living it, it is like I was right and I, and, but it was because I had this certainty and I believed, always believed in my choices.
And some choices haven't been a hundred percent super, you know, like a hundred percent on point because I have take curves and stuff. But I always come back to the dream, come back to the little girl, what do you want? Yes. You know, and stuff like that. So that, I think that that's one advice that I would tell tell people.
Like, do you really believe like, I can do it. Yeah, maybe, I'm not sure, but do you think, do you believe if you believe you can do it? So that is what has helped me really spread my wings and fly for real.
I'm feeling like we're sisters on the same path because one of the biggest things that I love asking people, which you just answered, was like, what would eight year olds you.
Imagine you were doing, what did you wanna be when you were eight? So I think there's something magical about that time period. And of course some people did not have a good time as a child, but for those of, I think for everyone, mm-hmm. Whether you had a good childhood or a rough childhood, there's something magical about that age where you have enough of the child wonder and hopes and dreams and enough of seeing a little bit of what practicality might be.
And there's magic in that's in that connection. And for me, I know that I'm living the right path. If I'm making 8-year-old me proud, like, am I still having fun? Is there still play in what I'm doing? Am I being curious or nerdy or, you know, anything was possible for me at that time. So if I'm listening to that part of my heart.
I'm gonna be okay. And I love that you mentioned since you've been eight, that you've, you've just kind of known. Um, I am, I am a big planner. To me, that's how I get, I, I take the risk down. I'm like, we can make anything happen. We just need, we just need a plan. Um, so I really see that. But it doesn't, being a planner doesn't mean that we, you see everything clearly.
You just maybe see what's on the other side of the bridge. Mm-hmm. And you're like, I don't know what that looks like, but I know I can get there. And if I take a step, I believe the stone will show up. Right. I know that the, the stone will be there for me to walk on. It's, I can't see it right now, but I have to just go.
And so I love that visual that you shared of the camita because you, we don't see every step. And I think that's where some people get stuck. They think that those of us who are doing, you know, what we wanna do and living lives that they might want to aspire to, they think we have all the things figured out.
And we don't.
No, we
don't. And if, and if we did, we probably wouldn't want that path. Right? We didn't want the one that was like, okay, if you do this and then do this and do this, like, we don't want the one where we maybe know all the things that are gonna happen, but we want the one that's like, okay, it's over there.
I don't know where yet, but I think we can get there. Let's go. Yeah. Um, you guys also mentioned earlier that you tried to work together and it hasn't worked until now. And that's another thing that I think is so important for people to hear because, you know, it's, it's easy to give up on a dream or a business or whatever you, what your passion is, um, because, but it might not be the right time or place or combination.
So what is it about how you both operate, where you kept saying, all right, not this one. We'll try again. Not this one. We'll try again.
I wanna comment a little bit more, and I think it's gonna lead up to this question that you're asking now because you guys made me tear up when you guys were talking about the, you know, the little girl and the 8-year-old and what you, what would you say?
Because I feel, um, you guys have had the plan and I feel like I'm, I'm gonna speak for those women who do not have a plan or, I, I do now, but I didn't for a long time. And I feel like this is actually, uh, a little bit of a, has been a little bit of a, of our dancing journey with my sister and I, because like she has mentioned since she was little, she was focused.
She was like, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna be an artist, I'm gonna be an actress. Me and my family tell me. And I, I speak very openly about it. Now that I was a distracted sister, I was maybe a little bit, you know, just, I like this and I like that and I like that. And I was, you know, just kinda like following whatever.
What's the saying? Following the little light? The light light. Wherever the light goes, the light, whatever. Yeah. So I was that my mom says that I was a little rapper that, um, that I didn't, I didn't let her do my hair, that I just wanted to do my thing. Um, and at the same time, I was very focused on school.
I was very distracted in life, but I was, uh, you know, I love to read and write. I've always loved to write. Maybe that's where my, my love for journalism and for writing came because I always kept a journal. I still keep journals and I wake up in the morning and like, that's my first thing I do. But coming back to this question, I feel like there's this dance between two different people and two different kind of different paths because at the same time.
That it was kind of like, you know, a little bit, uh, scattered whenever there was a time to make a decision or to make a career move. And I was like, okay, no, we gotta jump and still do it. Even though I don't have a, I've been the one that has jumped without having a plan, you know, taking that risk. And I'm gonna move to New York City because I got offered a job.
I have no friends, I have no family, but I'm gonna go live in New York. I'm gonna figure it out. You know? So to those women that maybe have been those risks, take cares without even a plan, you know, there's also a way. And now coming back to us together and bringing all these different life experiences and just different career paths that we've had, and just, I feel like now it's, it's kind of working because we both bring two different things to the table, you know, being.
Uh, on a personal level and on a professional level now is where we're finding that that dance, because we had to go through 30 something years of life to come to this point. And to answer your question, I feel like that has showed, um, all throughout our careers and our lives, and even starting Pink Outfit, because we went through different times that we wanted to start it, and then it didn't work out and we tried again.
But I feel like there was this one dream that kept us kept. We just kept it along. Okay. We even, we were said, okay, we're not gonna work together again. This is not gonna happen. Let's just go on our ways, you know? And we did, we separated, I mean, not personally, but just we said, okay, uh, we're not gonna work for, for a couple of years.
And then something will come back and spark the, um, even if we didn't want it, maybe on, on my end, we're like, okay, I still wanna do something to tell women's stories, maybe a podcast, maybe a, you know, um, and then. Natalia was at this at the moment that, again, she wanted to start something or we wanted to, you know, come together again.
So I feel like there was always the dream and the plan has always been there, but we just weren't ready at the same time. Um, so yeah, I feel like now has been that time that we're, we're finding that nothing in, I think you, you would probably agree with me that it has been a kind of like a, like a bumpy, a bumpy road, but you know, the dream has always been there.
Yeah. Yeah. No. So somebody told us one, um, something, uh, one day and, and they said it, was it the right thing at the wrong time.
Mm-hmm.
And, uh, now is the right thing at the right time. And it's exactly what Catalina said. Um. We were just, uh, we were just not mature yet enough to really take on so much responsibility to really touch other people's lives, you know?
So we needed to really get together with our own lives so that we can really lead by example. 'cause how are we going to be sharing people's stories and telling you, are you, you should do this and you should plan, and you should, if we don't plan or if we don't mm-hmm. Uh, have a healthy life. Or, or if we, whatever, you know?
Um, so we really wanted to be that first and then, um, come and bring it to the table plus dig and people's stories and then share them. So, not to say that we are anything close to perfect or anything like that, but I think, uh, pink Cafe was born. 12 years ago in 2011, I think is when we first said Pink Cafe.
And in a minute, if we want you, we tell you where the Pink Cafe work came up. Mm-hmm. But, um, we, we decided, okay, pink Cafe after a whole search and stuff. Hey, where, where is mine? Thank you. This is shameless luck. Shameless luck. I know, right? I know people. Sorry, where is the, where is the merch? Where is the merch?
We're like, oh, the merch. So then no other thing to do. Planning. Okay, cool. But, so 12 years ago, um, you know, we, we created it and, um. You know, I was in my late, late twenties or just getting out from this whole beginning of my, my other crazy life of like being an entrepreneur or like artist and I was still in Miami, all these things.
It was just so much. And then, you know, and Carolina was just graduating college or maybe still going through college, I think, because we had a, a quick event. Uh, and then we started kind of doing it, and then we're like, okay, there's something here. But then it is like, every time we tried to do something and start it, it was kind of like blowing up on us and meaning that people were liking it.
So we're like, wait, we, we only meant to do a quick event with some people and like, okay, what else are you doing? What is the next one? We're like, what? So I was just learning, uh, and, and starting more of like being stronger as a producer because I, I was first like assisting and then coordinating then in the creativity, and then it's like, oh, it's called producing.
Let me go study production stuff. So it wa I was going through that still, and then Caroline was like, okay, I need to graduate. Let's put it on the side. And then I'm like, okay, okay, let's put it on the side. So it was kind of like a path like that. So nothing really bad happened, it was just that we were not ready.
We're like, okay, we put it on the side, let's move on. Then I moved to LA and like that. So it was like a whole CTO again. Um, and then we're like, okay, if we're really gonna do it, we have to do it right and we have to be ready. And then we said, let Carolina go fly. Fly and do your thing. But then she told me the same thing, get more mature and learn more.
Spin cafe is always gonna be there. We bought our domains, we register, so to make sure that mm-hmm. This little dream is gonna be put on a little glass, beautiful box. Yeah. And put on the side because somewhere far away we, we felt that we still wanted it. 'cause it's such a beautiful thing. It's beautiful name.
It is catchy. So many things around it. And then we're like, we'll come back to it. But then we, there, we needed to do some growth, healing, personal Mary, these so many things. Mm-hmm. And then, uh, Carolina is the one who I was kind of like already flipping the page and then moving on and like, I'm in Hollywood, I'll do my thing.
And then production company, all the stuff. And then she came back and she's like, you know what? I wanna do a podcast with a friend, but it doesn't feel right. I, I just feel like. I just need my sister and I wanna do it with you. And, and already two years had gone by, so we were already good healing. We became friends.
Mm-hmm. Like closer with getting to know each other, getting to know each other as more as sisters, not as working yet. So the other issues or things came out later, but we we're like, I'm like, okay. And then I, I had a little dejavu, I'm like, working again together. What does that mean? All these things. And I was a little hesitant.
And she's like, no, no. But I saw her growth in her and, and she was hungry and she was so humble and so beautiful. And then I'm like, this is what I want too at the end of the day, you know? And I'm like, okay. She's more mature. She's doing did her thing. She was in this huge beautiful job in, in television and in like a legit thing.
So she has gone through so much. So her, her. Skin was thicker. Mm-hmm. Her strength was like that. So I felt like my strength was going to be really good with her strength. And we were two like really like foundational columns. We were gonna be for this building. And then, um, and we said, let's do it. And then things started happening little by little by other people who started believing in us and were like, oh, oh, so we're doing it.
Oh, so it's happening. So we invite, we were invited to, to the Latina Power, uh, is a, is uh, another platform that is amazing and they have supported us. And innocently without us saying officially we're back. It's like we were in this synchronization and this beautiful event with women and we're like, this is Pink Cafe.
This is what we want. Okay. We're back. And that year, um, is when we kind of like just said, okay, let's do it. And then we came back and it's been a beautiful journey. And you know, at the end of the day. The vision was always there and we always wanted to come back anyway. And finally, right now it's the right thing and the right time, so.
Mm-hmm. Yeah. We finally live in the same state. We live in the same city. Yes. That was another thing we, when we started the podcast, we were three hours away. 'cause I was still living in New York. Natalia was living here in la so we were, we had time against us. We were a three hour difference, you know, so she either had to wake up really early or I had to stay up until 11:00 PM or midnight, you know, just so we can get kind of like a after work, anything done together before work or after work.
But we were still committed and it was a good full year that we did this long distance and we're like, okay, we're doing it long distance, um mm-hmm. Just different, so many things against us, but we're like, okay, this is happening. And until we, we kind of got it off the ground. Uh, I was traveling here or we go there, but we were, you know, we're committed to this.
We, we made it happen like that. Yeah. So, yeah.
Yeah. It was the same for the Powerful Ladies podcast. You know, I had, we had talked about it, talked about it, and then Jordan moved to LA and I was like, okay, like, you're here and you got a job in podcasting. Great. It's time. Oh my God. Amazing. Oh, we have to get together.
Yes. Once the world
opened up. I didn't know you were in la Here in la Yeah, I know. I was
gonna ask, uh, I wasn't sure you were in LA That's great. I'm, I'm in Orange County and Jordan is in LA so, so we, we used to be, uh, we used to record, um, in a studio in LA pre COVID and since then we've been doing zooms with everybody.
Um, but yeah. So some nice La Orange County California opportunities. Yes. Mm-hmm.
Woo hoo.
Oh yeah. Good, good, good. Yeah. We're here.
Well, we, we ask everybody on the podcast, you know, when you hear the words powerful and ladies, what do they mean to you separately and what do they mean to you when they're combined?
And does that change your definition of them?
Hmm. Powerful. And lady,
you wanna go first or do you want me to go? Okay. I was talking a lot. Sorry about that. I took the floor. Um, no, it's fine. Um, powerful lady. I think when you put it together, it's magic. I just feel like those two words together are magic. We already, as a woman, as a lady, we are power. You know, we have so many abilities.
We can do so many things. We are multitaskers, we can be mothers, we can be entrepreneurs, we can be professionals, we can be, um, a sister, a girlfriend, you know. So I feel that as a woman, I'm very proud to be a woman. I'm so. Glad that God made me a woman because it's just, I embrace it. I love it. I live it every day.
And it's just, I feel it's, it's magic. And when you put power to it, it's just all around a beautiful thing. Yes. For me, powerful. Uh, I always believed in the power of the superhero Wonder Woman. Mm-hmm. So just with that posture and attitude and if you carry your life with that power, um, that for me again, is like believing.
Believing in yourself, believing in that power. And then, you know, powerful is like women no matter what. We are so powerful. We have so much, you know, to give. We are life givers. We are, you know, wisdom and, and that's one thing that I always gone through 'cause. With me in, in everything that means like, power is like believing in your dreams, believing that if you have a vision, you have a, a, a, a plan again, but like more like a vision stuff.
You have power because you're clear. You're clear on where you're going, what you wanna do. And then when I put ladies next to each other is that if you wanna succeed in life, you cannot do a solo. You have to do it with a team. You have to do it with people that who believe in you. And when you do it together, it is like you become more powerful and that there's a strength and a rock that no one, and nobody can really like, you know, um, yeah.
Damage or, you know, say no to. So I think that, uh, it is a beautiful, it's a beautiful, you know, two words, A beautiful sentence. Is that a sentence? Right? It's just like. The, the a title, I guess.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, exactly. It's a beautiful statement too. It's beautiful, uh, to, to understand what can, you know, ladies together can do because everybody's power comes together and becomes a powerful source.
So I think that, that for me is, is, you know, is the meaning of that.
Well, and for everyone who's listening. If you, if you want a trick to be more confident and ready, if you have to go on stage or do an interview or anywhere where you need extra confidence, you can literally do the superhero Wonder Woman pose and Yeah.
Uh, physiologically it gives you more endorphins and more confidence. So, um, I love that it symbolizes it, but it actually works physiologically as well. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. It definitely does. Yeah. For Caroline and I, big plus if you do it, so mm-hmm.
Big plus if you do it in front of a mirror. Because, yes, I've done it.
I've done it. Okay, I'm ready to send this email. This is gonna happen. I can do this. You do it in front of the computer, you get that, that power. But if you do it also in front of the mirror in the morning, you know, for, for your confidence, just wake up and be like, Hey, you look good. You look good. And you're powerful.
You know?
Yeah. It helps a lot. You look good. You feel good. You do good. Let's go. Let's go. Exactly.
Yes, yes, yes.
Well, we also ask everybody on the podcast where they rank themselves on the powerful Lady scale, zero being average, everyday human, and 10 being the most powerful lady you can imagine. Where would you put yourself on the Powerful Lady Scale from
one to 10?
Mm-hmm. The first one was being uh, zero, which is an average everyday human. Ah. Mm-hmm. Okay.
I would say, um, 8.5. I like to really leave the, a little bit of the human in there because I'm already so much out there. Uh, and I feel so power and a stoppable and stuff, but sometimes because the body is flesh and we have to really take care, I need to remember and tell Natalia, Hey, you're human. Okay.
So I, I like to leave my, my two points in there, 1.5 in there, so I love it. That's a great score. That's a great score. I second that motion. I wouldn't say I am a seven, going on 10 because I feel like I am still in a journey to learn every day. I do feel that I am a hundred percent human and every day. I have flaws and I am mm-hmm.
You know, working through things, I'm working through, uh, just learning and everyday growing and to become more powerful. And I feel like we're never gonna start, start learning. Mm-hmm. So maybe one day we'll get to 10, but then we will the next day or the next year is gonna come back to eight. And I feel like that every woman, as powerful as we wanna be, I feel like also having that kind of authenticity and giving yourself some grace also, when it's not 110%, where you're not giving it a hundred percent.
I feel like that's so important to kind of like say, Hey girl, you're doing your best and you're working towards that 10. But it is okay if you're a seven at 8.5 at nine or a five, you know, just give yourself some, some grace. So I'm gonna say seven going on 10. Beautiful. Love it. Taking notes. Taking notes.
Well, it is such a pleasure to meet the two of you as powerful women yourselves as a Power couple, as a Power Sister Couple, and just to find fellow women who are, uh, share a similar purpose, to empower and inspire and share with women that you know, us together is magic. That, that everyone can achieve what they want.
You know, I, I, I'm so honored to have you guys on, on the show and to just echo louder together that, you know, you can do it and it's fun and like, come join us, come hang out. Like, yeah, it's so fun over here. Um, so I love all of that. Thank you for everybody who, um, wants to know more about Pink Cafe. Wants to join you guys.
Where are all the places that they can find you and support you?
Yes. Thank you guys. Thank you, Kara, for having us on The Powerful Ladies Podcast, and for all of your listeners and the beautiful, powerful ladies that are here with us, you can find us on Instagram. We're at Pink Cafe, pink Cafe, spell without the C, so it's just P-I-N-K-F-E, so Pink Cafe.
We're also have our podcast on every platform on Google, on Apple, on every single one. And our TV show is on La TV Network. So you can find La TV network or on lat.com. You can find full, full episodes. And personally, my social media is at Catalina Drejos. You can just find it by, by my name. Yes, and my social media is at Natalia Rejo Herrera.
And um, yeah, you can also find, uh, pink Cafe and every, um, digital platform, apple tv, Roku, and all of those. Um, and then you can, yeah, you can go to the website where to watch also in your region. So, uh, but in the website, like Carolina said, you can actually see the entire episode there too. So. You can find us everywhere.
Thank you so much, Kara, for having us. Um, I really feel like this podcast has been, I think the one, the one that I, we've been like, um, really so transparent in being able to open up in, in, um, you know, see where we are too. If it felt a little bit therapeutic too, it was just like, oh my God. Perfect. You know?
Yeah. It's been beautiful and we relate so much with you and with Pink Cafe. You, you are definitely the kind of Pink cafe we like to call. Hopefully you can, you can come on our podcast as a guest too. Yes. And then we'll show you what to be. A Pink Cafe fea. Yes. No, I would love that. We would love to have you.
I feel I was going through all your social media and some other episodes and I feel that. That your questions are amazing and you're really teaching women not only to be powerful, but also just to live authentically and just be themselves and just a little bit of that whole, what it is to be a woman and a lady.
So yeah, thank you for, for that, for having this platform for, for other women and for us, for hearing our story. Thank you so much.
Yes. No, it's, it's been a pleasure. And I'm sure, especially now that we know that we're, we're all local. We can do some powerful lady pink cafes, uh, combos and everything else.
Like, it's just, it's nice to, as you mentioned before, it's important to find the people who are on the path that you are because there's more magic and more power when we come together. And I'm just so happy that there are women like you in the world who are out there to change the world and make a difference.
And that, um, now this audience gets to know about you too. So thank you so much.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much for having us, and we'll be back anytime you want us. Thank you.
Thank you all for listening to today's episode. All the links to connect with Carolina and Natalia are in the show notes@thepowerfulladies.com slash podcast. There you can also leave comments and ask questions about this episode. Want more powerful ladies, come join us on Instagram at Powerful Ladies.
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