Episode 326: Mindful Parenting in a Modern World | Sarah Ezrin | Author, Yoga Educator & Maternal Mental Health Advocate
Sarah Ezrin is redefining what modern parenting can look like. A yoga instructor, educator, maternal mental health advocate, and author of The Yoga of Parenting, Sarah brings mindfulness and realism to the often chaotic world of raising kids. In this episode, Kara and Sarah dive into the emotional rollercoaster of parenthood, the pressure to “do it all,” and why building your own village is more essential than ever. You’ll hear how Sarah blends yoga principles into parenting, what it means to maintain your identity as a parent, and why support systems in the U.S. are failing families. This conversation covers parenting as a spectrum, practical self-care, and how to stay grounded even when life gets messy.
“We are the magic makers, and bringing women together is a powerful thing.”
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Time Stamps
00:00 Introduction to the Powerful Ladies Podcast
01:14 Meet Sarah Ezrin: Yoga Instructor and Maternal Mental Health Advocate
02:39 Sarah's Journey to Motherhood
04:01 The Challenges of Modern Parenthood
07:02 The Power of Women and Community
14:11 Understanding Female Rhythms and Productivity
22:59 Sarah's Childhood and Early Struggles
26:49 The True Essence of Yoga
29:15 Ancient Yoga Practices
29:45 Modern Yoga and Commoditization
31:28 Personal Yoga Journey
33:11 Yoga and Parenting
33:30 Writing 'The Yoga of Parenting'
41:08 Powerful Ladies and Empowerment
45:42 Balancing Life and Business
51:18 Connecting and Sharing Wisdom
56:27 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsMuch of the world is built on a male clock in the morning. It starts to build. There's a peak around midday, and then it starts to fade out. We are much more of a lunar clock, and when you're looking at productivity, it's a lunar up and down. So being kinder about that, where we are forcing ourselves to live on a clock that's not our own. Kara Duffy: That's Sarah Ezrin. I'm Kara Duffy, and this is The Powerful Ladies Podcast. Kara Duffy: Like all things, the experience of parenthood is a spectrum and it's ever changing by the month, the week, the day, and. Even the hour, we put so much pressure on ourselves and can so easily absorb the expectations and judgements from others too. Then layer on the realities of it being expensive, time consuming, maintaining your adult identities, and in the US not being supported at any practical or structural level to help. Kara Duffy: It has fallen on parents [00:01:00] to find their own path, to build their own villages, and in the case of today's guest, Sarah Ezrin, to create methodologies that can support. Herself and other modern parents. Sarah is a yoga instructor, online educator, maternal mental health advocate, entrepreneur, mom, wife, and author of the Yoga of Parenting, 10 Yoga Based Practices to help you stay grounded, connect with your kids, and be kind to yourself. Kara Duffy: It was such a joy to record this episode with Sarah. It's real, it's raw, it's funny, and if you're like me, she's someone you're gonna wanna keep in your friend circle. Kara Duffy: Welcome to the Powerful Ladies Podcast. Thank you, Kara. I'm so excited to be here. Let's begin by telling everyone your name, where you are in the world, and what you're up to. Okay. Sarah Ezrin: My name is Sarah Ezrin. I am in the Bay Area, and what I'm up to currently is juggling mom camp, which officially [00:02:00] began yesterday as my son is now. Sarah Ezrin: He just finished graduate, they graduated TK and is going into kindergarten. So now we're into the summer struggle, which for parents of elementary school kids is a very real struggle. So that's what I'm currently doing. I'm an author, I'm a long time yoga educator, and I'm also a maternal mental health advocate. Kara Duffy: I spent a lot of time working in kids products in my corporate life and I was always reading like really great kids magazines. There's Milk from France and Junior from the uk. And my exposure to non-American systems of parenting always made me wonder why we do things the way we do in the us. And I read that you were someone who never expected to be a parent. Is that accurate? That is accurate. Yeah. So now that, so switching from thinking you wouldn't be a parent to becoming a parent, I'm really excited that you've decided to be like no. Here's new ways that we can step into this title that we get, but it doesn't replace our entire identity.[00:03:00] Kara Duffy: Yeah. What was that, aha moment for you that the kind of standard systems and structures and support and how we handle it wasn't going to work for you. Sarah Ezrin: I wouldn't say that it was one single moment. My awareness around identity. This is, so much of what we work on in the yoga practice is what am I really this job? Sarah Ezrin: Am I this person? Am I in this relationship? And having gone through significant losses back to back, I was really shaken out of my comfort zone of what I thought was consistency. And I had to reconnect with the things that are consistent, which is my connection to self and my connection to higher power. Sarah Ezrin: And like even, even friendships, right? Forming, coming and going. So I was, I've always been aware, like that's just the, one of the underlying main teachings of the style of yoga that I, I teach and I study is there's nature. Those are the things that are changing. And then there's the unchanging, and that is us. Sarah Ezrin: And our connection to spirit. I, that wasn't necessarily painting [00:04:00] my view of motherhood. I think the truth was I had all those losses and this is all, hindsight's 2020 and I was like, I'm not gonna love something so much and then lose it, because now I'm quite aware that you can lose the things that you love the most in the world and it doesn't matter the natural order of things. Sarah Ezrin: So that was a protected protection mechanism. I told myself, and I told the world that it was because I was focusing on my career and in fact I was trying to hang on to the things I could control despite then going into a yoga class and being like, we can't control anything. Like I was teaching the things that I needed to know, but then my everyday life was this, it was all about control, controlling everything that went in my mouth, how I moved my body, how I scheduled my time. Sarah Ezrin: So when I met my husband. And had to skip a practice and you have to like interrupt and you have to accommodate another human being in your space. I hadn't lived with anybody since I lost my mom. And that was, it was like that was the moment where I was like, oh my gosh, like the floor is starting to move now. Sarah Ezrin: Where am I anchoring in? [00:05:00] But I was more willing to open up to what, this whole like unknown of motherhood could be. But I had no idea until I got pregnant and until I had my first birth, which was like I think I was still trying to control everything. And this first one, and I'm pointing 'cause he's the one in the other room. Sarah Ezrin: It's all his fault. No it's not. He's my greatest teacher was like, you think you can control this Sarah? Because I controlled the first pregnancy too. Like I, I was like, I remember I was about to go on maternity leave and I was like, I'll see you guys in six weeks. Like I like, I was like, I'll be back. Sarah Ezrin: I'll have the baby in the sling. Like everything was planned. And that is not at all how parenthood is at least not for me and my family. So I was blown into it through the birth process and then into postpartum. And then that's when I realized, holy shit, not only can do, we have zero control over these humans, these like souls that we are now responsible for. Sarah Ezrin: And then, the other soul that we're caretaking if you're in partnership, but. There's no systems in place [00:06:00] to help support us so that we can keep those souls healthy and safe. So it was like this double drowning moment of not only am I completely above water or underwater with, just even trying to like this being that wouldn't eat and then you wouldn't sleep when I wanna, but then I'm like, but also like I can't afford childcare where I'm completely alone. Sarah Ezrin: The idea that they wanted me back at six weeks, I was like, are you kidding me? I could barely walk, so it wasn't like, I think it was a slow trickle, but it was definitely like the breaking through of the birth that pushed me to the other side. And it's been my mission really since I got. Sarah Ezrin: Better. And, because it really did blow the top off of my reality. And I had to get, I had very severe postpartum anxiety, mild postpartum depression, probably many other things that were diagnosable. And it wasn't until I could get my feet back underneath me and get back into a healthy place that I was like, okay, I need to help other women. Sarah Ezrin: This is not okay. Yeah, Kara Duffy: It's [00:07:00] continually mind blowing to me. How many parts of the female experience are understudied, underused under supported, under included into the reality of how our society is functioning? I saw an Instagram post the other day that said women go through, adolescence and then they get their period every month and then they go through pregnancy and then they go through birth and then they go through motherhood and then they go through menopause. And it was like in men do. And it was like nothing. Yeah, I've seen that. And I think so often throughout, recent history in the US and Western culture, women have just been like, yep. Kara Duffy: And that's what it is. And we talk about it amongst ourselves and we just gotta grin and bear it. And for those of us who are modern women today, who are so oriented towards alignment, freedom, choice, listening to what ourselves, our higher, [00:08:00] whatever, messages we're getting, it's so clear that it's like this does not work. Kara Duffy: This is not allowing us to be our calmest, happiest, greatest. Let alone in the community that it feels like we're supposed to be a part of. Yep. And even now I was just having a conversation with somebody yesterday about it was a white male. He was, he's a lovely human, but wasn't getting like, why DEI matters so much? Kara Duffy: And I was like, we, there's so many layers to this, but just the fact that it's because we're eliminating it, we're eliminating studying just women. Yep. How can you be okay with that? You have three daughters? Yep. I was like, oh my gosh. Sarah Ezrin: Yeah. You and I are recording this. I know you wanna keep this evergreen, but I'm I will say this as vaguely as possible, which is it's been a tough week for Marco this week, okay? Sarah Ezrin: And especially like I live on the West coast, it has been intense and, we're watching all of these things happen. And so what's fascinating is I don't think there was ever like [00:09:00] one guy that's I'm gonna, one white guy that's I'm gonna oppress all people of color. Sarah Ezrin: And all women like it. It happened over time. But when you look back at how, first of all, like how when we used to live in that more tribal setting, in that village setting and how women would commune women were always powerful as a group. Kara Duffy: Yes. Sarah Ezrin: And maybe it was one guy, or maybe it was multiple guys, but they, there was a lot of fear around when you put women together in a group, which is what you're doing. Sarah Ezrin: And I have like chills even talking to you about it. That, they call it a coven, they call it witches. We've been demonized. But really it's the power of having these women that are going through all of these phases of life, which by the way are like opening us up to God and then closing us down again and then opening us to universe and closing us down and opening us to another human. Sarah Ezrin: And clo like we are the magic makers. And putting women together is a powerful thing. So no wonder there, maybe there was one scared guy that was like, I'm not doing this anymore. But when you look at back at the history of the witch hunts, it was. Historically [00:10:00] designed to turn us against one another. Sarah Ezrin: To make women distrustful of one another, to start to break up women from hanging out in the groups that they are. So here we are, like, what? That was the Middle Ages. And, however many years later, it's a modern version of the witch hunt. But that power of these groups getting together is still quite feared. Sarah Ezrin: And again, it's, I don't know if it's one dude, I like, I'm like the patriarchy, like I picture our one guy, but I know it's insidious. It's insidious. And we have adopted it too. Kara Duffy: Yes. And I always find it so interesting when we go back and look at the origins of. Descriptions or of names? Kara Duffy: I, the witch that we know of and we think about Halloween. I'm so sorry. Sarah Ezrin: You're okay. I was like, ch, you could even keep this in because I think it's hilarious. I was literally choking the other day and he's like telling me a story and I'm like, like using the chair. I was like, I, and he's just yeah. Sarah Ezrin: And then so and they anyway, I know. It's like one of my, one of my very wonderful privileges is [00:11:00] keeping them alive, but they don't care about what we're doing. We have, yeah. Anyway. Kara Duffy: They don't it. I appreciate the selfishness. Like I think it's something we could all learn a little bit more from. Sarah Ezrin: Yes. Especially women, right? Like that, like being able to speak your needs and know what your needs are and Yeah. And and I think by the way and I know we're totally segueing and I don't know how you're gonna edit this, but I think men do a better job of that too. Like we have been told that we don't have, we shouldn't have any needs and we need to be small and de mure and over there and caretaking in the home. Sarah Ezrin: And that we were empowered to take care of these homes. And that's really where we're powerful when really it's being out in the world and together. Yeah. And in commune. But men have no problem saying what they need. And so what happens is my husband, for example, will be like, I'm going to take a shower. Sarah Ezrin: And I'll be like, is it okay if I go and take a shower? Yeah. And I, so I had that aha moment like a few years ago when I was totally burnt out and juggling both of the kids. And I was like, I'm gonna just ask [00:12:00] for, I'm not gonna ask for what I need. I'm just gonna ask for forgiveness. I'm just gonna say the things that I need. Sarah Ezrin: And it really is a part of our brain that like, we have to recondition and anyway, I'll go on a whole tangent about the, so the female nervous system, but that we are built for community and for connection and to worry about what other people are thinking because that's our job. Our that's how we grew. Sarah Ezrin: That's what femininity is. Calming together, being together, being in community. And it's just a different brain. It's a different brain, but we can adopt it now in modern times. Kara Duffy: Yeah. And I think it's a different brain that we can 1000% use to our advantage for whatever, era or once we have, the on my, in my other world as business coach, one of my methodologies is the have it all method. And I think I'm gonna change it to be the have your all method. Kara Duffy: Because, there's all these, again, it's stories and stories that women are having to remove and deconstruct that we've haven't chosen half of the words we would use [00:13:00] to describe ourselves. Kara Duffy: We've never said about ourself and when we look, there are so many clients I'm working with and they're overwhelmed and they're exhausted and their business is a good idea. They're getting people to say yes, but they're like, I can't do this. It's not gonna work. And I look at what they're doing, I'm like, yeah, 'cause you're doing a bunch of dumb stuff that you don't need to do. Kara Duffy: Like who? We remove about 80% of the things that they're having on their to-do list. And they're like, how did you do that? I'm like, I just picked what you wanted. We got rid of everything else. Like we don't have to have an Instagram account, we don't have to be doing email. We don't have to work 24 hours a day. Kara Duffy: If we are, the more selfish we can be in a authentic, aligned way. It's the fastest way to make more money. Yeah. And women in particular think I'm full of shit when I start to have these conversations with them. And it's what both breaks my heart and motivates me because of [00:14:00] all the people in the world who need more time and freedom and space. Kara Duffy: It's women. So yeah, I think and in the nervous sense system part that you were talking about, which I do wanna get into, I know for myself. I just started going to a therapist in September. I've always I have yoga teacher training. I've had lots of mentors. I've had lots of coaches, and I'm like, no, there's, this isn't a conversation anymore. Kara Duffy: We have to go deeper. And the different, the disconnect between my brain and my body has been shocking me. And I've learned recently that this is something that's very common for people who were advanced athletes. And I'm glad to see that we're starting to, there's some coaches who are implementing this sooner into their training. Kara Duffy: But I think we look at it like we're so good at turning things off and ignoring things and storing it. So I would love to let you nerd out about women in the nervous system pre and post. Pardon. But what are we not talking about that we should be in that space? Sarah Ezrin: [00:15:00] Yeah. Yeah. So you touched on a couple of different things, and I think the one the thing with the, when you train as an athlete, and the thing that many women get really good at is like that depersonalization. Sarah Ezrin: It's like we're almost like disassociating and it happens a lot. Whether you're, you're an entrepreneur and you are very into the thing that you do. It could happen because you love what you're doing. Like sometimes I'll be writing for hours and hours. I'm like, oh my gosh, I've had to pee that entire time. Sarah Ezrin: Sometimes it's because you're a cog in the wheel of corporate. Sometimes it's because your kids need you and you can't get up for that moment, for whatever reason. There's many reasons why we disconnect. It doesn't always have to be negative, but there is this choice to leave our body and to leave the sensations of what we're experiencing to power through. Sarah Ezrin: And much of the world is built on a. Male clock, which is a 24 hour testosterone up and down clock in the morning, it starts to build. There's a peak around midday and then it starts to fade out. [00:16:00] We are much more of a lunar clock. It's much more like on the monthly cycle. And when you're looking at productivity, then you wanna think about it as and this is if you're still getting your period or you're in perimenopause and cycling through is you can see that build, it's the same apex and decline. Sarah Ezrin: You see it all the time. You see it in the tides, you see it in the moon. But for us it's lunar. It's not a daily up and down. It's a lunar up and down. So being kinder about that, where we are forcing ourselves to live on a clock that's not our own, and no wonder we feel disconnected from our bodies. Sarah Ezrin: So that's not necessarily the nervous system piece. But it's just tapping into what's your rhythm? Now that being said, not to gender it, so just removing gender from it is personality type two. My child that I'm home with today, he's a dreamer. Like he, his nervous system is very much like slowed down, like in that free state. Sarah Ezrin: He's highly anxious, but it's a shut down way of expressing himself. And so for him, [00:17:00] everything is much slower moving and you almost have to thaw the ice first to get things going. Where my nervous system is like fight or flight, mostly I, it turns out I'm more flight than I am fight. Sarah Ezrin: I always thought I was more fight and I was feisty as a teenager, but they're similar. They're upregulated states where his stress response is a downregulated state. Now we go through this all day long too. There's times where we have overwhelm and you're like. I just need, I'm on my couch and I can't think of anything to do. Sarah Ezrin: I've been in like a long term, overwhelmed with my business right now, where I'm just stuck. I just feel stuck and I'm not stuck in the way that I used to be stuck, where my heart rate would be going and I'd be sending out a million pitches and just trying to throw a bunch of stuff against the wall. Sarah Ezrin: It's that down regulated place. Which is similar to early morning or late at night. It's that slower moving space. So when we feel ourselves in that period to honor that season, that's, yeah. Kara Duffy: Are most women [00:18:00] aligned in does it work with the lunar phases of we are building energy at towards Full Moon and then coming back down? Is that the rhythm that we should. Is that the average sink? I guess that we have maximum energy around the full moon. Sarah Ezrin: Yeah. Yeah. And that your new moon is and it's that's, but it's different energies, right? Yeah. So no, are you gonna be out doing like your, CrossFit classes or riding spin classes or out in the community? Sarah Ezrin: Full Moon is all about what it's, it syns up with when we're ovulating. So that's like the time of connection and community and being out in the world. But the energy we have in that other phase, which is the week leading up to our period, then being on our period is in that like lower phase. We do have energy for stuff, we're just not physically out and about moving. Sarah Ezrin: So it must, it might be more like organizing, nesting, creative ideas, just a slowing down of the physical body and really allowing the energetic body to be nourished. Kara Duffy: And [00:19:00] when I'm looking at, coaching with clients as well, I'm pulling in what's their human design, what's their, yeah. As astrology are you an early bird or a night owl? Kara Duffy: Like I'm trying we do so many different personality tests sometimes and other things, so I can start to see where people fit. 'cause so often we can't see it ourselves. We have to reflect some of it back. We do a lot of scheduling work and when we should do things or not. So I think this is really interesting thinking about how we should be planning things. Kara Duffy: Like I know for myself, even looking at the full year cycle, there's been a lot of debate about are we starting the year in January or are we starting the year in March? April and this year in particular, I've seen myself and both powerful ladies members and people in the, in my client space. Kara Duffy: No one kicked off their year until March or April. Granted, there's been a lot happening as well, but everyone was beating themselves up in Q1 and I'm like, guys, like beating ourselves up is just such a waste of time. So what can we do instead? [00:20:00] There's always prep work. There's always other things to be doing and like that alone is a big thing, but I know for me, I like stockpiling the more masculine aggressive energy into Q1 and Q2 because I don't wanna have to stress out about it as the year is winding down. Kara Duffy: Yeah. So I'm thinking even about the bigger one, and we are recording this on the only Friday, the 13th of the year. Yeah. And KJ Atlas, who's been on the show, who's in my group coaching too, she had this great post about how feminine aligned. The 13th is, and all the names for it and Fridays and all those things. Kara Duffy: And it was just, it was a nice reminder to take it back. It's only scary because some guy decided it was scary. Exactly. Sarah Ezrin: Exactly. There's so many things there that I wanna unpack on. We live in the Northern Hemisphere, so for us in January and February, it's a fallow time of year. There are the, I was just talking to my son, like, [00:21:00] how amazing that these trees were completely bare and now they're completely verden. Like the, you can see it outside that it is still a time for slowing down where spring is really it feels like the new beginning. And there's certain cultures that study like Naru is in spring. Sarah Ezrin: And the idea of the calendar beginning in January really was decided by some guy, it was decided in Roman times that they were gonna create the Gregorian calendar built around. The cycle of the sun, which was a masculine solar energy. And I wanna say really quickly, I'm, we're not knocking masculine versus feminine. Sarah Ezrin: We need both. It needs to be a healthy balance of both. We've just been leaning towards, it's been too much of that. It's like too much into the masculine. And what we all need is a little bit more into the feminine, but I'm not surprised in the slightest that people were kicking into gear around March. Sarah Ezrin: I see it in my own business too. And when I used to run workshops and retreats and people just, everybody was still coming outta the holidays. It's also [00:22:00] what makes the holiday season so incongruent with what our energetic needs are in that moment, right? Here we are out and we're running around and we've got different, especially in young motherhood, all these different events, and then you're going to this party and that party and you're communing with this person. Sarah Ezrin: No, that's our, that is the quiet time. That is the new moon of the full year. And that's the time that we really need to be home and reflecting and tuning in and doing one-on-ones. It's the opposite of what is out there. So fighting against that can be exhausting on a different level. Sarah Ezrin: But I love that you support your clients with all of these different things. Because we can draw from all of them. There's not one right way. It's like you pick and choose to learn who you are and what makes sense for you today. Kara Duffy: Yeah. And on the flip side, there's also some who have come to me and been like, I'm a projector. Kara Duffy: I just have to wait. And I'm like, I love that for you, but we also have to follow your sales plan. I appreciate that. How can we modify your OnPlan actions so that they still feel good and you produce results? 'cause we can't just wait for people to show up. Yes. When you were growing [00:23:00] up if you go back to 8-year-old, you would, she have imagined that this is your, mindset, philosophy, the life that you have today. Sarah Ezrin: 8-year-old me was really struggling. 8-year-old me was having a very hard time. 8-year-old me did not know it at the time, but my parents were very close to breaking up and there was a lot of drug and alcohol addiction in my home. And I was pulled out of one school that I loved more than anything, and thrown into a private school in LA where I did not feel comfortable, like down to my uniform. Sarah Ezrin: And I started to act out at that time. And by acting out I meant like by 8-year-old standards, which was that I was stealing pencils from Hebrew school. And I like brought them home and I got caught and my mom was like, what have you stolen these? And I lied about it anyway. They and rather than looking at what they were doing and maybe they were also looking at what was going on in within the home and everything else. Sarah Ezrin: But I got yanked into a psychiatrist's office and promptly [00:24:00] misdiagnosed with bipolar disorder and put on a cocktail of medicine. And this was all at eight that I didn't understand, including Lithium and Trazodone. And there was more I don't wanna say Seroquel, but something similar. And it was like, it was so wild. Sarah Ezrin: I, I. I didn't know any of this. Like I, I like none of it. Like I didn't know where I was anchored at that point because the home was constantly changing with people getting kicked out, my meaning my siblings, and then potentially parents splitting, like there was no, no ground beneath me. Sarah Ezrin: Then my school was changed, then all these things, and rather than being given ground and being connected to maybe a movement practice. Which I like. Now I'm like, looking back, I'm like, you guys, you should have had me moving my body. Yeah. I was not moving my body. I was like eighties, nineties girl, like in front of the tv. Sarah Ezrin: No, I see with my son should have been moving my body. Maybe I, I did not like Hebrew school. I don't like I, I consider myself culturally Jewish. I don't consider myself religiously Jewish, so maybe some [00:25:00] other way of connecting with nature or universe, right? I needed those things, but I would, that's not what happened. Sarah Ezrin: What happened instead was I was thrown on medicine. I was put into psychiatrist's office. I ended up having some of the toughest four years of my life. I had a lot of weight issues as a result of all the medication. There was all of this stuff happening. But where that led to, and the point of what I wanna get to is that at 12 years old, I finally was advocating for myself to get off the medicine. Sarah Ezrin: My dad and my mom had worked through what they were going through and were trying to make it work. And they were like, let's get a new therapist. Let's get her off the meds. I was misdiagnosed that entire time. They were like, this child is not bipolar. She just has has a lot of energy. I, so I'm highly anxious. Sarah Ezrin: And I, they got me started with a new therapist who started me on meditation. And that was when everything went back underneath me. And she would lay me on her couch and we would do this visualization. And I I really thought I was just getting outta therapy. [00:26:00] I was like, fantastic. I don't have to talk about anything, and then I was like, we would she would take me to the beach and all that stuff, like through my mind. But that was the rope that was like the connection of there is something to ground me. And that was the start of me starting to find my footing and that it went through into friendships and then eventually into a movement based practice when I was 19. Sarah Ezrin: But it was 12 years old that that I was really connected. Kara Duffy: And how thankful am I on your behalf? That 12-year-old you was advocating for yourself? I, most women I know had lots of moxie, so advocating for ourselves isn't necessarily a surprise, but when you're put on drugs and then having to advocate for yourself from a place of not being grounded, it's like a whole other strength and power. Kara Duffy: Like how impressive for a 12-year-old you, yeah. The yoga training I have is psychotherapeutic yoga teacher training. That's cool. And it came from a therapist who was partnering [00:27:00] with yoga teachers to, 'cause they couldn't do the yoga practice with their licensing and say they're partnering with people. Kara Duffy: And it was such an interesting experience to get half psychology or one third psychology, one third neuroscience and one third of the yoga components. And most people, when they still hear the word yoga, they think of the physical practice. And I'd love for you to expand that a little bit. For people who don't know yoga, beyond going to a class that they fall over in, like how would, how can you summarize for them. Kara Duffy: How much bigger yoga is than that. Yeah. Sarah Ezrin: Yeah. I'm I would love to hear about your training. That's sounds like Exactly. My alley. That would've been like, that would've been exactly what I was seeking and would've been perfect. So I think of it like the Austin of the physical practice is like a fingernail on the whole body. Sarah Ezrin: That is yoga. Yoga, the word itself. Sanskrit's a really interesting language because in English we have one word, and then one meaning like, light is by light [00:28:00] is my light, and my floor is my floor. But in the Sanskrit language, one word can have many different meanings. And the word yoga, like lowercase YOGA means anything from a mathematical sum. Sarah Ezrin: Like adding two, two numbers together, an astrological conjunction when stars in the sky line up a wedding. A union between two people, union itself, like Yoking, where they used to talk about, like on the oxen people, they would attach the steers. What are those things called? The reins to the oxen. Sarah Ezrin: That was a form of yoga. Even putting in an arrow in a bow string were all called yoga. So yoga itself, like on the smallest scale, is about connection. Like simple. And that's that is what yoga is, the yoga philosophy, capital y yoga is this beautiful way of looking at the world and all these amazing texts came out of it. Sarah Ezrin: Some of which many of your readers and listeners probably know, like Bba Gita, [00:29:00] there's some that are quite famous now, but the capital Y yoga was like. All the practices that we could do for that connection. What are we doing to connect to ourself and to big self Big s? Self movement was such a tiny part of it for so long. Sarah Ezrin: There were pictures that they found, they called them seals, but they were like tiles of people, like in a seated meditation. And then later on there, there was talk about, sitting for meditation and how you have to prepare your body for sit sitting. But it wasn't until mid mid like medieval times, like 14 hundreds that you started to have actual texts that were telling people what poses to do. Sarah Ezrin: And most of those postures in the poses were still seated postures. It was still always the step to meditation. So it got turned into this much more gym focused exercise focus much, much, much later within the lineage of yoga. Unfortunately that's what can be commoditized, right? It's a lot harder to commoditize mindfulness, although I think the wellness [00:30:00] industry's been working really hard to do that the last 10 years, and I do see it happening. Sarah Ezrin: You see these meditation teachers rising up in celebrity status, but it was the physical practice that's. Sold. And that was attractive and that was the thing that you could see. And so that is what our like most base understanding of what yoga is. And I still also I don't knock it. Sarah Ezrin: I still do us, and yeah, I still do physical practice. I move my body every day. I think it's a beautiful door to get people in the room so that then they're breathing and they're moving while they're breathing, and then they realize, oh my goodness, I'm in alignment with where my mind is, where my breath is, and where my body is. Sarah Ezrin: Oh my goodness. By doing that, I'm in alignment with everything in this moment. Everyone in this room, everyone on this planet. Kara Duffy: Yeah. For me, I think it's so important because it's one of the, it's very hard, I think, to get people to stop what they're doing and like just start meditating or just start breathing. Kara Duffy: But if you are able to get someone to go to a yoga class of any kind. It's it because it forces you to go [00:31:00] into all the things at once. Yeah. It's a much more oh, okay, now I get it. And no, I'm not advocating for starting with a hot yoga class or a yoga sculpt. That's not gonna get you focused in the right places. Kara Duffy: But I know for me, again, like tying back that mind to body connection, having an us in a practice is what reprograms my brain into where it should, where I'd like it to be more often. Yeah. Sarah Ezrin: To be fully honest I was I was like a two hour a day Ashtanga practitioner for years decades like that. Sarah Ezrin: Not dec I started in 2001 doing Vinyasa. It was always like strong and hot and lots of movement. Then it became Tonga Yoga, which is like very must be at this time and it must be this and this. And then it stayed Vinyasa for a while. These days, like since having my kids, first of all, I couldn't physically practice in the way that I used to after having my first son because of the birth trauma and also because of how high my anxiety was. Sarah Ezrin: [00:32:00] It didn't feel good in my body to be so slow and still and to go for that connection. I needed other types of movement at that time. I needed to be out. Side and walking mind you also, that postpartum period was at the same time as the COVID shutdown. So it was a very we were isolated on many levels. Sarah Ezrin: Nevermind just postpartum, or, I also got really into I was like, oh, I think I need to do more fitness. I needed to be like moving energy. The yoga was not, it just wasn't calling me back to it. And then I came back to it for a while and I was practicing regularly again, and I got pregnant with my second son, and that was a really tough pregnancy, but I taught the whole way through. Sarah Ezrin: I was teaching online at that point. And then after having him, I just, I don't know why I just haven't been back to it. The physical practice. With the same consistency that I used to have. Now that all being said, I meditate every single day. I do breath work every single day. And when I do move my body at the CrossFit gym that I go to, it's not CrossFit, it's like HIIT training. Sarah Ezrin: I consider that my yoga. So it's not those poses, but that's how [00:33:00] I lift. Like everyone around me is always moving really quickly and I'm like, I take forever just to get the movement in. And I'm using that as my yoga practice. So it really does evolve in these fascinating ways. And this was the whole point of my book was like, parenting is yoga. Sarah Ezrin: Like I am doing yoga, just breastfeeding this child while my other toddler is calling for me and I'm being triangulated and managing my energy and being able to ground in this moment. Like that to me is yoga, Kara Duffy: and I'm so glad you brought up your book because that's the jump I wanted to make based on what we were talking about. Kara Duffy: So you have a book called The Yoga of Parenting, and I also believe that there's so many correlations. So you list 10 yoga based practices for parents or do mothers parents. Yeah. Was it immediate for you to start seeing this connection of oh my gosh, 'cause breastfeeding could easily be a mindfulness practice or a meditation practice. Kara Duffy: Did, it just keeps showing up every day and you're like, oh my gosh, I have to talk about this. Sarah Ezrin: Yeah. Again, I don't think anything was really like [00:34:00] registering or settling. Yeah. In those first few months. It took me, and by the way, I wanna be very clear that I am a huge supporter of psychotropic drugs. Sarah Ezrin: Like I had to get on Prozac in order to get my nervous system and my anxiety levels down to a place where I was like a functioning human because those first eight months of being a mother, I was not a functioning human. And so I don't know what was going on. I see now in retrospect, I'm like, oh, that's where, that's when you build up your bank of your yoga practice and you rely on the tank of it to get you through. Sarah Ezrin: But it wasn't necessarily like a conscious thing. It wasn't until after I got my feet back underneath me, I was. Seeing the right team. I was on Prozac, which I really needed to be because of the postpartum anxiety that I then was like, oh my gosh like how I'm practicing is these things. It started to all click together and it was interesting 'cause that's exactly when the idea for my book came through was, shortly after I had my feet back underneath me again. Sarah Ezrin: And yeah, I [00:35:00] think it was always something I'd known, right? It was like, it was, it's 'cause it's, I'm not like teaching anything new. It's some, we all know we, it's like that intuitive knowing of oh, this is gr this is grounding for me. Or, oh, this is a ba, this is a moment of balance. Sarah Ezrin: Like I'm, yes, I can stand on one leg and fall over, or I can be juggling multiple responsibilities, is this a moment of strength and like holding on? Or is this a moment of softness and letting go? So it was like, I'm like, oh my goodness, this is all the things that we talk about. But being personified through parent. Kara Duffy: Which I think is such a lovely way to look at it, because we also have a thing in this country about taking yoga and putting all these rules around it. And we don't give ourselves grace. Like it's either, like I, it's, I could only check off the yoga box if I was in the studio and if I did, the 90 minute class and if it was 105 degrees. Kara Duffy: Yeah. Like we, we keep making it harder and harder to access the things, to your point [00:36:00] that we actually need embedded into our every day. And if we're willing to look, they can be there. We can give ourselves credit for them if we're willing to look at it and see where those moments are versus create these different rules and make it really hard and always force ourselves to be. Kara Duffy: Not performing good enough to give ourselves credit. Yeah. So the idea of finding, I totally get what you were saying about there was no space for clarity because you were trying to like, just get yourself down onto earth and Yeah. I think a lot of people have would relate to that from right now as well. Kara Duffy: Like, how are we balancing, I think balancing what's going on in the world and balancing the dreams that we have and balancing the responsibilities we have and wanting to show up for our community in so many ways. There could almost be a book too, of yoga for existing as a human today in America. Yeah. Sarah Ezrin: Yeah. Kara Duffy: How [00:37:00] did writing the book, like what did it give you after you were able to put. Pen to paper panic attacks was one Sarah Ezrin: I post-traumatic launch disorder, which is, no, it was an amazing, it's a birthing, right? Your book is a birthing, it comes as a download. It's the most amazing thing. Sarah Ezrin: And I'm like, I'm waiting for book two. I'm like, okay. I'm like, outside. I'm like, hello. Like rubbing my crown open. It was a download that came through and then it just, the momentum of it, and and the fact that I did it, like I could do it. I've been a writer since I could put pen to paper. Sarah Ezrin: At that time I was writing for multiple publications, like all the time. And my friend who's a writer, I had called her just for advice on writing a book, and she's you've written many books just in all of these articles that you've put out. And so to be able to do it, that accomplishment was such a beautiful thing. Sarah Ezrin: To see it to hold it in my hand was amazing. But the. Best part of the whole book experience was, first of all, while writing the book, I was interviewing many different people, either yoga practitioners or yoga [00:38:00] teachers who are parents and talking about their journeys. So it was this, it was a gateway for connection. Sarah Ezrin: And then after the book came out. What I did for my book tour is rather than just sitting in front of a room, I went and I held these circles all around, wherever I was traveling to. And so I got to meet all of these different parents. This is where I got into the mom space, because I realized like most of the room were women and I was able to talk about certain things with it being a room full of women, that was different when there was like one dad in the space, and it was hard for me to make that leap because I wanted to be really inclusive. It was really important for me to have parents of all genders and all identifications. And yet I also was like but I'm leaning towards motherhood and the feminine. But it was, that was the greatest. Gift of all. Sarah Ezrin: The people that I've met, there was like people that I used to just admire from afar was like, I will never meet this person are now like someone I literally, I text with every single day. And it just, it created this level playing field [00:39:00] and it brought me into rooms I never thought that I would be sitting in. Sarah Ezrin: And it really is just it's the yoga, right? It's all connection. Everything is connection. It was a beautiful gift. Kara Duffy: I am smiling over here because you're saying things that are so relatable for me. One is like the ongoing struggle I've been having and it's turned up the volume this year, which means I'm trying really hard to listen to the downloads in a different way, but I coach whomever shows up that's in alignment and the space of powerful ladies keeps expanding and needing more and the conversation keeps coming up of. Kara Duffy: Should I just align it all, make my life easier and say, we're just gonna coach women for a while. And nothing makes me feel like more of a jerk because I wouldn't be getting rid of the male clients I have. 'cause I adore them, but it's really weird for me to be creating spaces that they wouldn't be invited into. Sarah Ezrin: Yeah. Kara Duffy: And that it's been a conversation, been having some other people about how to level up [00:40:00] and be inclusive while being selective or curating the group. I've been trying to use different words that don't mean exclude, because that's the part that I'm like hanging onto. And I wish more people knew that you can just call up whoever you want to talk to. Kara Duffy: Yeah. Or email them. And the, this podcast is the most selfish thing I do because I get to run around in the world and read things and watch things and go, that person looks incredible. I need to talk to them. That's how you got here today, right? I was like, I told my team like her, I wanna talk to her, all the stuff she's doing. Kara Duffy: And they're like, okay. And like suddenly people say yes. It's such a crazy, incredible feeling when you reach out to someone you admire and they're like, yeah, let's have a conversation. Yeah. You're like, what? Yeah. And there's something about accessing that, which I feel is such a breakthrough for stepping into what your [00:41:00] extraordinary space can be because we stop remo like making the this gap. Kara Duffy: And so this will segue into my question for you because. I wanna know how you define powerful and ladies, and if those words change next to each other, and I'm gonna create a little bridge in the sense that so often people think of powerful and say, Beyonce, Michelle Obama, fill in the blank of who you are admiring. Kara Duffy: But there's something we're really missing out on when we think we're level one and they're level 10. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'll hold my comments for you. Sarah Ezrin: So I used to make a joke when I was doing my press tour with, for the book, which was like, the yoga of parenting is actually redundant because yoga is parenting, it's the same word. Sarah Ezrin: So in a way, powerful ladies feels like that for me too. It's that is ladies is powerful. The feminine is powerful. And I agree that like we do hold all these people to a higher standard and we're like, oh, they're on a level that will never reach, but. [00:42:00] Look around to the women in your life and you are blown away. Sarah Ezrin: Like you are blown away. You are blown away. And maybe, I like, I was very blessed to have a very strong mom who I was extremely close with and who was just my everything for so long. And I'm crying 'cause it's 22. 22. So I'm like, maybe she's like nodding and saying something now too. But that not everybody has that relationship with their mother figure. Sarah Ezrin: But look around in your life and see the women that. That fill those roles for you and how extraordinary they are. Just like the women in my classes, like when we would get together in circle on retreats, I'm like, I'm blown away by these people. The mothers in my circle now. We don't sit in a literal circle. Sarah Ezrin: We're usually scattered or chasing our children, but like the mothers in my circle, I am constantly blown away by the power behind these women. And it's not the titles that they have, it's how they're showing up in the world and how they're living with integrity. And it's really a beautiful remarkable thing to be a part of.[00:43:00] Sarah Ezrin: So for me it sounds like it's the same word, right? They go together. It's powerful, ladies, is exactly what it is, right? It's that empowerment and stepping into our light and being able to shine the light for each other. 'cause sometimes that's more comfortable than being able to shine the light on ourselves. Kara Duffy: For accessing your own power has it been through your practice of yoga? Has it been through becoming a parent? How did you go from. The anxious child that was misdiagnosed to someone who occurs to me as like very aware of her power and very grounded and so secure in it that you are giving it away to other people in a sense. Sarah Ezrin: I'm like, really? I don't know who you were just talking to in the last hour. That is not my interpretation in this thank you. I am still extremely anxious. I am also very self-aware. I have to give credit to my Al-Anon program. Today is actually my four years in Al-Anon. Congratulations, which is for, thank you. For friends and families of alcoholics and the power that [00:44:00] program has given me, because so many of us that grew up in homes where there was alcohol or in relationships where there was alcoholism and addiction we give away our power. And we are either trying to control the addict and change them, or we're giving away we're putting ourselves last to take care of them. Sarah Ezrin: And it becomes this thing where then you grow up and you're like this this people pleaser, right? It's and not that's a bad thing, but like the, the empathy, you can have empathy fatigue. So here I am, like four years after my first meeting and I really. Really do try to sit in the awareness of this is me. Sarah Ezrin: This is where I am in this moment. This is their stuff. And that's really hard because I am so empathic and a feeler and I like, and so anxious. So it's like it gets, the lines get blurred. But when I can find my spine, when I can remember to have my head over my heart, and my heart over my hip. Sarah Ezrin: And like a be in this moment, I can come back into myself in this really beautiful [00:45:00] way. And it's not just one practice. I'm like, I'm really like big love to the program, but it's all of those things combined and just being able to get centered, I still lose my stuff, and then I write about it and I write a really embarrassing substack that people are like, that was a lot of sharing and but I feel so much better on the other side. Sarah Ezrin: I'm like, and it doesn't matter how many people are liking it, but someone always says Me too. And then I'm like back. Okay. Head over heart over hips. I'm back where I am, I'm back into this body, Sarah, at 43, not the 8-year-old girl that's spinning and doesn't have a floor beneath her. Sarah Ezrin: So I don't know if there's I don't think it's a secret to it, but it's always it's a constant coming back. It's a constant reconnection to self. Kara Duffy: I'm, I feel like I'm constantly talking to people about how life and certainly their business or their product, whatever their thing is it's not linear. Kara Duffy: And to me it very much is a spiral like a true cone shape. And those of us who have been doing a lot of work to be [00:46:00] self-aware and to work on things and to get out of, whatever spaces we don't wanna hold onto anymore, it can be really infuriating because as we're going through this spiral, we're always gonna hit that spot that's oh, this is the line for our money story. Kara Duffy: This is the line for not having boundaries. And it's just another layer of having to learn it and practice it. And I laugh at myself now when I'm like, oh man, we're back having it. Okay, level 15 of fill in the blank of whatever the thing is. But the same thing happens with our business too. Like we thought we solved marketing. Kara Duffy: Oh nope, we New layer now we thought we figured out our customer group. Nope. It's a new layer. And for me, just knowing that it's that spiral shape makes me be like, oh, okay. That's just like the nature of thing. So nothing's wrong. It's how it's supposed to be. I don't need to worry about it. What I think is really beautiful is. Kara Duffy: The shape that I see in this process, this kind of cone spiral that gets wider [00:47:00] and wider is the same shape that a rocket has to take trajectory wise to get out of our gravitational pull and out of our atmosphere. And that correlation, I think is just really beautiful of we have to go through this to get to whatever the other level is for where we're at. Kara Duffy: You can't see possibilities in people and things and not have to catch yourself from crossing the street too often. And I think that's something that I'm most proud of is like continuing to hold space for people and be committed to them and stay on my side of the street. 'cause when I first started coaching people, I was like, just gimme your business. Kara Duffy: Like I can fix it. Yeah. But that's not how it's supposed to work. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, that's beautifully put. Thank you. We ask everybody on the podcast where you put yourself on the Powerful Lady Scale. If zero is average everyday human and 10 is the most powerful lady you can imagine, where would you put yourself today and on an average [00:48:00] day? Sarah Ezrin: I'd love to say 10. I would love to say 10. I think internally, like who we are on a soul level, we are all tens. I would say I am down to one right now on my business level as I have taken my foot off the gas a little bit. And that part is hard for me, but when we're talking like soul level essence I think we're all tens. Kara Duffy: I love that. And I, and. I really hear how you've been sharing about your business, that you're in that recalibration mode. Yeah. Yeah. I'm Sarah Ezrin: like secretly trying to get coaching out of you. Yeah. I'm like, and that funnel over there. No, I am, I'm in a major recalibration. Sarah Ezrin: And then also the balance of motherhood right now, which I know will be. But yeah. Yeah. And we can talk offline about it, but what I was gonna say is that the niching down part, I think, and you, and not to coach you, but please do you sit with it? No, I think it's gonna be a really beautiful thing when we get clarity on that, because that's where I'm at right now. Sarah Ezrin: It's like mothers, that's a really, now I'm getting, first it was parents, then it's mothers, now, like mothers of what ages, what kinds of mothers. What are the identities? And I know that once [00:49:00] that messaging gets clear, I will be clear and then the downloads will flow through. Right now I'm just swimming in this water of oh, I wanna help that teen mom over there and I wanna help, this person who's, kids just left the nest and like but is that, that's, so it's just a really about the focus. So maybe that is the spiral in the opposite direction. Maybe that's another spiral, just bringing you closer to what your truth is. Kara Duffy: I, and I think sometimes very much how, like you can get stuck in a little whirlpool around something, I've been describing it to people, this evolution that my businesses are in right now. Kara Duffy: Is I feel like I am in a opaque bubble, and next to me is the opaque bubble of the evolu. The next version like 4.0 of the businesses, and I'm saying plural because coaching's been one thing. Powerful ladies has been a separate thing. There's a third business like by all of 'em together. It's, and so I, I can feel what it should feel like. Kara Duffy: I can get a sense of who should be around the table. I can get an impression of like how I feel in it, but it, I'm, I just have to be patient because I need to [00:50:00] let the clarity come. And we're doing all that on top of maintaining what's been existing. So it's not like I decided to go take three months off and go hide. Kara Duffy: Yeah. And be like, I actually spent one day at a shared workspace where it's just me. I booked out a space and I'm like, okay. I'm like talking to my computer we're gonna solve this today. And I did a bunch of different kind of writing exercises and like trying to like talk and respond to myself. Kara Duffy: And I got so mad because it still wasn't working and I'm like, okay, I can't force it. Yeah. I left early, came home and took a nap. Yeah. I was so mad about it. Yeah. But it, we just, we can't force it all. And I am not a patient person, so who, my level of patience now versus even five years ago is radically different. Kara Duffy: But it is one of those things that I'll be constantly working on. For myself, like patience to me. I'm much more patient with other people. And then I think that's also very aligned with like the [00:51:00] trust I have. I have to like, whenever I'm really in a space, I have to come back to no. It's all gonna work out. Kara Duffy: No. I am protected. No, I am supported. Yeah. It's so interesting how we can't run away from our themes. Yeah. It's just what relationship do you wanna have with them? Yeah. But I wanna, I do wanna come back to you and all the things, because you do so much, you have so many different titles and so many different ways that you are working hard to share your wisdom and what and give space to other people. Kara Duffy: So what parts of all the, besides being an author and a mom, and a yoga teacher, and a scholar, there. You're doing so many other things. You mentioned your substack. Yeah. What can people find and expect there? Sarah Ezrin: So substack is pretty raw essays, mostly motherhood base, but it's just been a really fun place for me to just write how whatever's coming through me. Sarah Ezrin: And again, it can be intense at times, but that's where I feel safest to do that. [00:52:00] I'm very active on Instagram. This has been a tough week to be on IG and it's. Been a tough, last year to be on there. But what I was doing on there was a lot more educational content, connecting content, storytelling. Sarah Ezrin: And then I have, if you join my newsletter list, I try to write, this is the thing I'm doing to like, keep the motherhood business going is like I, I am, like, I'm committed that once a week I will write to my group, my community. I call them the village. And because we are a village, we are all a village. Sarah Ezrin: And whether I'm sharing meditations or, I'm, sometimes it's just like inquiry. But that is how I stay connected to the amazing women that are in my circle. Even though I'm not offering like a paid program right now at this time. This is more me giving away whatever I can, like my lessons from last night. Sarah Ezrin: Like that's so much of what my Thursday writings are often like, what happened Wednesday night? Because. Yeah. So it's, I try to give it in that sense and yeah, I will get back to my programming. I absolutely will. I know I will. I just wanna get really clear [00:53:00] on who I'm serving. Sarah Ezrin: And then I think the program will be more clear from there. But my goal would be group coaching. Kara Duffy: Yeah. Which is my, one of my favorite things to do. I love it because I, I think we share some values in like the community and the connection space, and nothing makes me more proud than seeing clients who are now collaborating and they're hanging out. Kara Duffy: I'm getting very jealous that all my clients are having like this fabulous night and I'm like, Hey. Yeah. But I do love seeing that collaboration. I like seeing the circle getting richer because, it's a different trust level and it's a different space we're holding when you can be. Kara Duffy: Leading a group and allowing all these voices and experiences to add to the enrichment. So I love it, but I totally get as well that when you don't know the exact person, like that singular kind of avatar you wanna talk to. It's really hard to make a focus program because then you're like, Ooh, we can do this and we can do this. Kara Duffy: Yeah. And you're like, okay. Yes, all [00:54:00] those things can exist in time and space, but maybe not with me as a sane human as well. Yeah. Sarah Ezrin: Yeah. And also, and I know you have a lot of entrepreneurs listening and we can wrap it up, but it's also like yoga and meditation aren't really like tangible wins, it's not oh, I'm gonna help you build your business and I'm gonna help you get your first project off the ground, and I'm gonna take you to a four hour work week, or I'm gonna teach you how to play guitar. Like these are immeasurable practices. So yes. Anyway, any of your valuable listeners? Sarah Ezrin: Yes, invaluable and immeasurable, but if anybody has any, insights onto that just how to quantify it. 'cause I think people need to be able to see the results. And the results for me is like yelling less and, not losing my shit and overwhelm and all those things. Sarah Ezrin: But yeah, so anyway, I just think, I understand if for the entrepreneurs in that gray space, especially mom entrepreneurs, which I know, I don't even like saying 'cause who says dad entrepreneurs, but entrepreneurs that are mothers and in young motherhood who are juggling between the two and you're in that gray space of not knowing. Sarah Ezrin: I just, I see you, I feel you. And just like you [00:55:00] were saying, like we just need to trust and it will come. It. That's the beauty. If there's any beauty of being in middle age, it's like the download always comes, I'm always taken care of. I know that I just have to be patient for when that time is gonna be, and right now I need to be here with these guys. Sarah Ezrin: Yeah. Kara Duffy: Yes. That's such a beautiful way to say it. It may all of us take that away of being like, okay, I'm gonna be protected. I'm gonna be okay. Let's just be a little bit more patient than we are right now. For everybody who loves what you're talking about, wants to know more, wants to on the substack, wants to follow you, support you, is I don't care what class you're offering. I'm just already a yes. Where can they find and follow you? Sarah Ezrin: Everything's on my website, which is Sarah Ezrin Yoga. And then I was, I used to say I'm most active on Instagram. I don't know if that's gonna be the case anymore. So go to my website. That's the one stop shop. You can send me a message, you can connect to my YouTube. Sarah Ezrin: I have a lot of free classes and meditations on there. And that's also where you can sign up for the [00:56:00] substack if you're interested. And yeah, I just, I love, I'm a connector, I don't know human design very well. I don't know anything about it, honestly. Although apparently I'm, am I a generator? Sarah Ezrin: I think I'm a generator, but I don't know. Yeah. That but if that was a word that was part of it, like I am a connector, that's my favorite thing to do. So reach out, tell me what's going on in your life and you know very much, I'm sure that is similar to you. I will connect you with everybody I know and put us all in the circles together so that we can all thrive and be powerful together. Kara Duffy: Thanks for listening. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe and share it with a friend. Head to the powerful ladies.com where you can find all the links to connect with Sarah, her book, and all her other offerings. Come hang out with the powerful ladies on Instagram at Powerful Ladies, and you can find me and all my socials@karaduffy.com. Kara Duffy: This episode is produced by Amanda Kass, and our audio engineer is Jordan Duffy. I'll be back next week with a brand new episode. Until then, I hope you're taking on being powerful in your life. [00:57:00] Go be awesome and up to something you love.
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