Episode 252: How Shadow Work Can Help You Reclaim Your Power | Shadi Sadeghi | Jungian Coach & Emotion Code Practitioner
Transformation doesn’t happen on the surface. Jungian coach and Emotion Code practitioner Shadi Sadeghi helps people reclaim the parts of themselves they’ve hidden, suppressed, or ignored. In this episode, Kara and Shadi explore what shadow work really means, how it can shift every area of your life, and why true healing requires emotional honesty.
They dive into how your unconscious patterns shape your reality, what it means to awaken to your own BS, and how tools like Jungian coaching and the Emotion Code can unlock your next level. Whether you're stuck in a pattern you can't break, or you’re ready to stop living on autopilot, this conversation is your invitation to dig deep and move forward.
“When you become awakened you see the world in a different way. You want to tell people that you have the power. You have to go towards the emotion and the discomfort to have true transformation in your life.”
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Chapters:
(00:00:01) Who is Shadi and What is Jungian Coaching?
(00:04:00) Breaking Cycles and Patterns That Keep You StucK
(00:10:00) What Shadow Work Really Is and Why It Matters
(00:15:00) Coaching vs. Therapy and Reclaiming Responsibility
(00:20:00) Taking a Sabbatical and Living Abroad Alone
(00:28:00) Learning to Trust Yourself Through Uncertainty
(00:34:00) Motherhood, Perfectionism, and Internalized Patterns
(00:40:00) Epigenetics, Energetics, and Inherited Trauma
(00:45:00) Creating From Inspiration Instead of Obligation
(00:47:00) Shadi’s Powerful Ladies Rating and How You Can Help
We are not just physical beings here to, get married, have kids punch in your time card. We are meant to experience life in different ways and then access those parts of ourselves that we're not, that are limiting us and not allowing ourselves to really. Go for things we want and do the things we want.
That's Shadi Sidiki. I'm Kara Duffy and this is The Powerful Ladies podcast.
Welcome to the Powerful Ladies Podcast.
Thank you. Thanks for having me, Kara.
I'm excited for you to be here today. Let's tell everyone your name, where you are in the world, and what you're up to.
Sure. My name is Shady Sadegi and I am, right now I'm in Orange County, California. A former East Coaster that's moved to California just recently.
And what I'm up to is I have my own business and I am a Jungian coach and soon to be, probably by the time this podcast comes out, an emotion code practitioner.
I have so many questions. So what is a Youngian coach?
It
is a type of depth psychology. So Jungian psychology is depth psychology. So it's a more deeper model of psychology.
And the type of coaching that I do has this foundation of depth psychology, and it is based on the work of Carl, Dr. Carl Young. He was a psychiatrist and a psychologist, a pioneer. He was a mentee of Freud actually. And, really he and Freud, when they I guess you could say popularized psychology in the early 20th century, they uncovered aspects of the psyche, the human psyche, which involved the unconscious.
Mind and they uncovered really through their experience in psychoanalysis that there is much more to the human psyche than what we are even aware of. And that it's almost like this of information that the individual himself doesn't often even know or see. But it is yet driving our behavior and our actions and our results.
Life and our outcomes. Who would, oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. I was gonna say, so where this comes in with the coaching, so I'm not a therapist, I wanna be clear. And the coaching aspect is that our potential. Is in our unconscious mind so we can tap this unlimited well of potential and what I call power, really our power through the unconscious mind, through Youngian coaching.
Who are the type of people that have come to you for this help? Who do you who, I'm sure everyone needs it because it sounds like everyone does, but who is this really made for? That's a great question. On this side, the way I see it, the way it has impacted my own life, that's the thing. It's not just one niche that can, it can help.
Because any problem or any challenge or any goal you're wanting to attain this process, this work, which involves, a type of tool essentially, I call it a tool called shadow work. Shadow work came from Carl Young. It's rooted in young, in psychology. It can help anyone with any problem and it's been hard for me to just pin down one type of niche.
So really if I zoom out this. Path helps us to become more awakened to our true selves and to our purpose. And so those are the people. So people who come to me typically have a sort of challenge or a roadblock that they feel like they keep getting hitting. Or. At least that's where I was when I sought out Youngian coaching for the first time seven years ago before I even became a coach myself.
And it was that I felt stuck and I kept having the same experiences over and over, like Groundhog Day, the movie, Groundhog Day. Yeah. And I kept having the same experiences. Typically people who come to me are having similar experience and it is because it is time for them to really expand awareness.
And integrate. An aspect of themselves. They have repressed or rejected or denied, but they just don't know how. They don't have the tools. And I am helping to guide them. I really, I see it as I'm the Sherpa that's helping you to climb Mount Everest, but life is Mount Everest for everyone.
Could be a small amount, Everest could be a large, yeah. You mentioned that you went after it for yourself seven years ago. What were you frustrated with continuing to deal with that? You're like, I don't wanna deal with this anymore. Who's gonna help me break through this and either let it go or just not have it be in my blind spot anymore?
Yeah, so I think at that time I was frustrated with the two primary subjects that I think everyone talks about and thinks about, especially women is, was love and relationships. And then my career. Yeah. I was frustrated 'cause I was like, why do I. Why is it everywhere I go, I don't feel valued in terms of my career or work, and I know I'm a great employee.
I work hard. I'm smart, but I kept feeling undervalued and underappreciated. And then with love and relationships, I'm like, I keep it. It's emotion, un emotionally unavailable. It's like the tagline, emotionally unavailable. I kept encountering that and I'm like, okay, I'm the common denominator in those situations.
And I came across my mentors who were doing back then, it was webinars free webinars. And I was like it resonated so deeply. What they were saying was that we are creating our lives. Even the kind of yucky stuff, the crappy stuff it's not that we're making bad things happen, or, we're making our boss bad, i'm creating, I'm magically creating this like bad boss that comes into my life. No, but it is the fact, the pattern is telling us, number one, we are creating it for sure. Number two, our response to the situation is our, it's ingrained in us and it's unconscious to us unless we bring it to awareness.
One of my favorite sayings is I'm creating you. Creating me. Yeah. And it's just it's such a heady thing to get to wrap around sometimes, but we don't realize how. Who we're being is then causing whoever we're interacting with to be a different way. 'cause we're so in tuned at a unconscious level about how someone's feeling or reacting.
And I actually shared a post with a friend of mine last night at this dad who caught himself. His daughter called him out and she was like, are you okay? And he said yeah, I'm fine. And he realized by him just saying he was fine and brushing off her acknowledgement of what he was thinking about, he was actually shutting down her intuition and her knowing.
And so he went back to her and said, Hey, thanks for asking. You noticed that I was thinking about something that made me feel stressed out. But I want you to know I'm okay. I'm just thinking about it and processing it. But your intuition was correct. Yeah. And I was like, what a beautiful gift. Because I think so much of the work that you probably have to do is because so many of us have been trained culturally to stop listening well and to suppress what we're feeling.
Yeah. Because, that's what society, it's almost not only does society reinforce that, but we don't want to feel uncomfortable. So then we're like no, I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm okay. And then we don't deal with what's coming up. And actually gold is in what's coming up. And it's very challenging.
Sometimes to work with clients that really just dodge, they don't wanna go there, they don't wanna go to the dark place. And I'm like, that's really the only way it's called shadow work, so you have to go to the dark place and really face it, and then you start to realize oh, it's not so bad.
Oh, it's not. It's not that big, horrible monster that we thought it was. Yep. The only way through is through, for better or worse. The only way through is through. Yeah. Yeah. And you reclaim your power that way too. What was the pivot point for you to go from receiving this coaching to saying, this is what I'm supposed to do with my life.
I'm gonna be honest with you, it really wasn't that clear. Yeah. So really what young uncovered is that human beings are on this path of individuating, essentially making the unconscious aspects that they're not aware of within themselves. Essentially come to the surface, bring it to light, have them become aware of it, and as a result, the more they reclaim those parts of themselves that they have repressed, they are becoming more whole.
It's like the iceberg, right? It's just of water. But most of us go through our whole lives. Thinking that we're just the tip of the iceberg, which is this is my identity. This is just who I am. I'm just an introvert. I can't change. That's not why we're here. We are meant to expand. We are meant to do the, the hard stuff, look at the hard stuff, and really look at those aspects of ourselves that we're afraid to look at or that we push away.
And it's very subtle, it's very automatic. And. Really embrace it so that we become more whole. And this is what in the east they call spiritual awakening. And so it's a spiritual awakening because we think that we're just physical and we are not just physical beings here to, get married, have kids, punch in your time card, just go home, same route, same kind of thing every day.
We are meant to experience life in. Different ways and then access those parts of ourselves that we're not, that are limiting us and not allowing ourselves to really go for things we want and do the things we want. And so it's. I really I went through this journey of awakening and it was like at a point of when you are awakened, you really can't turn back.
Yes. You can't unsee it. You can't undo it. It's filled milk. And so because I had Jungian coaches I was on that path already and of awakening essentially to my, to my true self, to all the aspects of myself for decades that I, have repressed. It's very subtle things. It's not like massive traumas.
A lot of people think that's what shadow work will uncover. It's just your patterns. You're literally calling yourself out on your own patterns and how, and you're taking ownership of what you have created in your life. And that is awakening, that is, it's awakening to your own BS and owning it and, I went through that experience in real time and that's when I, it hit me. I cannot work for somebody else anymore. I was working in corporate. I lived in DC's very it's a capital. It's the capital of America, right? So it's very much like power centric. It's all about ironic. 'cause now that I'm on the west coast, LA is like this.
It's all about what you do, who you know, right? DC is very much like that, very ego driven. There's nothing wrong with that. It's just that I felt like I, I had outgrown it. I was like, this is not who I am anymore. And my job doesn't define me anymore. And the letters behind my name don't define me, and I'm much more than this.
And I wanna figure out who that is and I wanna work for myself. I wanna have freedom. And and really when you become awakened, you just, it's like a shift. You just see the world in a different way, and you just wanna tell people like, yeah, you have the power. You ha you don't even know you're, you are co-signing or opting into certain relationships or certain jobs.
And dynamics. You are doing it, you're doing it. It's all you. It's, it's not your fault, it's your power. And so that's when I was like, I gotta do this. It's like I have to, I have all this wisdom. I went through the path myself. I wanna share it with the world. And I wanna impact as many people as I can from all walks of life.
And it's about becoming more conscious. You are essentially by. Reclaiming those unconscious aspects of yourself, you are becoming more conscious as a human being. And here with that comes physical changes even and like spurts of energy and these experiences that I went through that I wanna help others through and I wanna share with others as well.
I think you and I have a shared mission. Of moving people into that power. It's why Powerful ladies got created. It's the coaching I do. Nothing makes me more crazy than someone saying they want something and then not doing anything about it. But it's especially knowing that we have the wisdom that we need, we have the capabilities.
It's really just a matter of are you actually going to choose yourself and. I think what's also frustrating, and I'm curious if you experienced this too, like for people who are on a growth and personal expansion journey. I still find myself hitting that a ceiling, right? Because we expand and hit the ceiling like we max out in that room like Alice in Wonderland, and it's so uncomfortable to break through the ceiling.
It's so frustrating. And then we, you break through and then you're laughing at yourself again for still being frustrated knowing that this keeps happening. Yeah. It's almost I think. I know personally, entrepreneurship is also like the fastest way to awaken. Yeah. And expand because you are constantly, like you said, hitting limits and you're hitting walls.
And then I think that when you just zoom out and expect walls to be there and you don't make it mean anything, then it's not. You just expect it. It's just oh, okay, here's another one. Aha. Okay. I got this one. Or I may, and maybe I don't, and maybe this is a time for me to ask for help because I'm always like holding myself up and never asking for help.
So it's okay, how can I maneuver around this wall this time? But I think that I think that funny thing is that we expect life not to be easy. I don't wanna say easy, because yes, life can be easy, but these challenges are intended to make us grow. And to change something. They're happening for a reason.
Even, and it's reflected in society. And if you look, the reason history keeps repeating itself in certain world events is because people are not owning their shit. Excuse my French. No, you're allowed to swear on here. Owning. Okay, great. I love it. All right, so they're not owning their own pain.
And so what we do is we keep projecting it onto other people. Yeah. And when you actually take responsibility for your own pain, and this is why I also love coaching more than therapy, is because therapy's great. Listen, we all need therapy at one point in our lives, and it's wonderful and brave to do therapy, but it's not so much focusing on what did mom and dad do to me?
And I'm just, I'm stuck. This is just what I am. I have a DHD, and like I just, I can't do anything about it. No. You, it's your responsibility now to take what you experienced those, the conditioning the experiences that you had the challenges that you had to learn a different way around it.
Or maybe to see, I know a big one for me a big lesson for me was I'm a daughter of immigrants, that is a very, it is a hard life being, being a child of I of immigrants is a hard life. So then you grow up expecting life to be hard. So what do you do? You're going to create a hard life.
Yeah. It's inevitable, right? And so I think the, one of the greatest lessons for myself was realizing that, holy crap. I'm creating a hard life because that was my conditioning and life doesn't have to be hard. So that actually made it easier that when challenges would come up or when there would be times when I'm like, I can't do this.
I'd be like, oh, okay. It's just, my inner drama queen showing up again. All right, cool. It's similar to people who have been raised with a family that yells. And then you date someone who's quiet and you're like, they must not care. They're not yelling. And you're like, no, like you are the psychopath in this situation.
Like people don't need to yell to show love. So it is the stories that we create about how life is supposed to function is it's our own hilarious, entertaining, and we need to remember that's what we're doing. So we can break out of it if we want to. Yeah, if we wanna Exactly. Yeah. So you mentioned that you were in dc did you grow up in the DC area?
I grew up in Baltimore, Maryland, yeah. Nice. Yeah, go for it. And that I heard my team did some research and they heard that you were also a CASA advocate out there, or part of Casa. I was Oh, that's a good one. I was, and it was for a short time. Because soon after I, I actually, I left I moved abroad.
I moved abroad for a year. I did a sabbatical before I moved to California and I was, and it was an incredible experience. Do you want to share, or should I share what a casa you can share what it is. Yeah. So a CASA volunteer is, it is for children who go through the foster system.
They the CASA volunteer is a representative on behalf of the child. And it could be an adult child actually even in. It's incredible to me that we have such a sophisticated system to help these kids through the foster system in America. There is the social worker, of course, there's the, there's a legal team.
There are the people who are in the foster, the actual parents, foster parents. There are the ones that are in the the homes that are, in between the halfway, I don't like 'em, half, they're not called halfway. Homes, but the group homes that, facilitate putting the kids in foster homes.
And then there is the casa volunteer who cultivates a relationship with the child or teenager to really be able to, express and convey their needs and their whatever experiences. It's like big brother, big sister kind of experience. And I, but it's court a court appointed essentially.
And so it's very legal and you are, it's a very serious volunteering job. It's not just any old volunteering job. And you are dedicated really to your person, to that foster child. Help navigate, help them navigate the best path for them to thrive. I love it. It's a, I am on their like charity committee for some of their galas here in Orange County.
Yeah, I'll let you know we're going, if you wanna come, hang out with us. But it's, that's, I, when I found out about it it it was such an obvious yes, because it's actually a nonprofit that works and you can see how it works and. It's very transparent and the impacts statistically are off the charts like, yeah, I am.
We need the CASA for, people who are leaving the criminal justice system and we need the CASA for other places. So I was thinking that. I was like, there's some adults that could use this. Yeah. Beyond just the foster system, I think it's big thing. Yeah. But it's one of the things that powerful ladies, volunteers and contributes to every year.
I love being a part of it, so when I saw that pop up, my team's Ooh, she knows it too. That's amazing. Oh, that's a wonderful idea. I'd love to get involved. Yeah. Yeah. We'll follow up after. Sure. So what was it that first I wanna know where you went abroad because I, I used to live abroad too.
I love traveling. So where did you go? I had a vision before I left DC of what looked like the Italian countryside. And I was like, something in me was like, I saw myself on my deathbed and I had never had. This experience, the Italian experience, or the European experience. And I was like, I need to do this.
And I literally was like, I have nothing holding me back. I have no reason not to do this. So I took a sabbatical. I literally bought a one way ticket to Italy. And I remember, of course, anyone I told was like, oh, the E Pray love experience, is that what you were doing? And I was like, I guess if that's what you wanna call it, sure.
This is my own maybe. And because I only had a tourist visa. I couldn't stay in, in e the EU really for more than three months. So right at the three month mark, I hopped over to the, to Cyprus and it was also February. So Cyprus is the warmest place in Europe and had that experience. So basically I hopped, I ended up hopping, which was unexpected, but it was something I needed and something I wanted.
And after I've been working for somebody else since I was 15, I've had a job since 15 and I felt like. I just needed to get out of the United States. I needed to experience life outside of the United States. I've done study abroad, gosh, I was like 21. That doesn't count. And we've all traveled, we've done these like vacations one week at a time.
I wanted to know what it felt like to live outside of, to live like grocery shop. And, walk to your nearest bakery, coffee shop, meet people in a European country. And Italy came to me. Now, I think what I was picturing was actually the Laguna Beach shoreline, because that's where I ended up anyway, and I'm like, this is home.
But but that's what I did. And so from Cyprus, then I came back to the States for my best friend's wedding, and then I went to another friend's wedding in India. So I just went, I was like. And then from India, I was trying to get out of India to go back to Europe. It was so expensive to fly straight back to Europe, and I just Googled the cheapest flight out and it was the Maldives.
So I was like, oh, tough life. Yes, I'm gonna the Maldives. And I thought I was only gonna go for a week or two. But I loved it so much and it was quite affordable 'cause it was a low low season at that time. And I stayed for a month and that was mind blowing experience because most people just go in and out.
The Maldives let just go to the resort and then they leave. I wanted to experience local culture in Mal in the Maldives end. Most people dunno about the local culture at all, and that was very eyeopening. Then from there I went to Vienna and I thought I wouldn't like Vienna. I thought I was gonna be like in and out of Vienna.
I fell in love with Vienna. It is the number one most livable city in the world for 12 years straight. I didn't know that. And then I saw Hungary. I saw Slovenia, and then I went to Croatia and I loved Croatia. I lived in Croatia, and then I ended it all in Italy. And I got to see the northern part of Italy in the summertime.
Yeah. And that's when I finished. I love that. Yeah. For. A self-love language is traveling and I a similar I don't know how people can really experience everything that this life and this planet has to offer if we don't leave our home country. Exactly. And we don't go for a you hit the nail of the head, like you have to go away long enough to figure out how to function on your own in this other place.
It's different when you have to feed yourself and you have to go beyond the tourist center, which usually has things in English no matter where you are. Yeah. And then there's an element that I think this has come up recently, talking to people, I, someone was saying the other day how they keep running into people who don't seem very nice.
And I'm like I think there's a you and then this common denominator. But it made me realize that what they were actually saying was that. They've been disappointed in how people haven't been helpful. And I was like you, to show for people to show that they're helpful, you have to ask them for help first so people don't just volunteer these things.
Yeah. And something that has completely shifted how I see humanity is by being in situations where I had to trust that they were going to take care of me. I don't know how you grew up, but like growing up in, we're into good stuff. What's that? I said we're getting into the good stuff now. The young psych stuff comes in.
Like growing up in the eighties, nineties, like my mother kept feeding me like afterschool specials and these, dateline things that basically tell you to trust no one right. And that, especially men. Men, if you're a female, men are scary. Don't trust them. Don't ask them for help. Don't get in their cars.
I'm sure like the fact that we use Ubers all the time now is a whole cultural mental shift of getting into strangers vehicles. But it's when you are in a place where you cannot figure this out by yourself. You need shelter, you need food, you need directions. To just trust that these people in the universe are gonna take care of you.
It shifts how you think about everything. And you can't get that if you don't leave your bubble. Exactly. And it's those challenges again, right? That we were talking about earlier. The only way you can realize something needs to change is if you have to be tested. If you're tested. And so the whole trust thing.
What's interesting about that is that, and I think this is why travel is amazing and entrepreneurship is the fastest way to actually, not just tr learn to trust the world, but learn to trust yourself. Because however much you distrust. World, it's reflecting how much you distrust yourself. And it's not even about oh, I trust myself to get this job done.
But it's about trusting yourself to be okay no matter what happens. And most of us panic and think that, no like if this happens and then I'm gonna die, or if this happens, then I'm not gonna survive, or I'll be, the what's the word term? Laughing stock.
That's the trick. I like laughing. Goat, no laughing. Stock. English wasn't my first language. So laughing stock, and so people stop themselves before they go for that thing or take a risk or take a year long sabbatical to just with a one-way ticket to Europe. And I was just like, at that point I was like, I trust myself to figure it out.
And I will figure it out and then whatever comes up and I was like, at this point I know enough that I can, that whatever comes up in my reality, I can work with, I can do the shadow work and I can figure out that it's showing me my mind, it's showing me where I need to essentially bring awareness to that aspect of myself.
Trust is really, it's a big one. And can I tell you something else please? That this is a fun fact and I think your listeners are gonna love this one, but how we trust the world is actually based on how our relationship with our mother was because the mother, the feminine represents the earth, the world the, essentially the material world and how we mother.
Our business or our projects is also based on how we were mothered or our perception of how we were mothered. Yeah. And we internalize that. And that is one of the unconscious patterns that we take on. And we don't realize that night, for all you perfectionists out there, and I, I am a former recovering perfectionist, but a reformed perfectionist, I was also raised by a very, a perfect mother. Like my mother was perfect and she was perfect in a sense of expecting the best at all times in everything. And I think that's a wonderful thing. But when it's, when it becomes an unconscious pattern, it becomes almost like a compulsion. And we realize it and we.
OCD about things and it's that is how we're mothering everything and it becomes almost controlling and smothering. And that is the shadow side, right? Of, of that experience that we want to become aware of and integrate and then say, okay, what do I actually want to consciously choose? How do I want to mother?
Projects or this business or these relationships even. And going back to the like darkness versus light, the visual that pops up for me is if we're operating, like we're a circle and most of us are operating in maybe like a little wedge, like one piece of the pie has light, the rest has dark.
And the more that we're gonna work in these areas that we can't see, that are blind spots that we don't know we get to make the circle brighter. And it's like you're using more of your brain, right? And you have more of these tools. And I think that's where you said it earlier we get more powerful when we look at all these things that we don't know we're operating under, because then we get to make choices in the moment versus.
Wake up and realize, wait, what? Yesterday? Like when did I ever make a choice? Was I present ever? Did I choose any? Any of it? No. It's a conditioning, it's like the conditioning pattern that's running the program that's oh, if someone asks you for a favor, say yes. 'cause that's what I've always done.
That's the people pleaser in me, right? Yeah. But then, but what's uncomfortable is that people. They tend to look at the external situation and address the external first, which is I'm just gonna tell them no and then they're super uncomfortable because it's going against their pattern. It's deeply ingrained, and then they're like terrified.
They're like, oh my gosh, like it's. Especially if it's like family members or loved ones or your sibling. And if I tell them no, then they're gonna hate me. It's this, it's bringing up this innate human fear of being rejected by the tribe. And so that is what's driving us, and we give it to it.
And then we think, no, everyone just takes from me. And like I I'm just, they don't even realize that they're creating this people pleasing pattern, yeah. Have the power to change it. You have to go towards the emotion, the discomfort of it. And young said that, insight is great, awareness is great.
And this is again, not to knock therapy I you knocking therapy, but this is what you do. You keep rehashing like, yeah, these are my patterns. And that was, I did therapy in my, I think in my mid twenties and I was like, yeah, okay, I already know all of this stuff. But nothing's changing.
You know what I mean? Yeah. Transformation is in the emotion. So when you actually. Sit with the fear or observe it and say like, why am I so afraid of saying no to someone? It's not interesting. I wonder why and examining that, and then you can see that you start to peel back the layers and realize that you are opting into this dynamic with this person to always say yes or always be the person that they need or and then you start to realize these dynamics are shaped based on that identity that they see you as. And that's on you. You can change that. But most of us think that no, but this is just how I am. You are not your conditioning. You are not how you were raised.
You are not, we're not even as women, there are societal ceilings, like you said. We're not those either. And that's up to us. If we wanna shatter those ceilings, we're not, the only thing we actually are, I think is love. That's it. So if it's not in the, if you're not feeling love, if you're not feeling loved towards other people, there's a missing the.
So often I'm giving my clients permission to do what they know to do. And one of my favorite dis like tools to work with is the phrase that every breakdown you're having is because you have commitments and conflict. So if we can identify the commitments you have, like I don't wanna support my sister, but I also don't have the money or the time, or I don't wanna do it, and we can separate those, we can start to work with on them individually.
But it's such a, to be able to see the commitments underneath the critique or the concern or the thing, it shifts. It's like such a great communication tool and that's where I learned it from, like a com, a communication program, but it changes so much when you realize it's not the problem is the symptom of what we actually care about.
So how can we make it an and statement instead of a but statement? Exactly. So is it's, yeah, because the ego thinks that it can't. It can't do the and statement, it can think, it can only be one or the other in order to survive. So that's why we stay stuck in the survival mode. Yeah, and especially by midlife, it's like I'm tired of just treading under, treading water constantly and being in survival mode all the time.
I want to create from passion, from inspiration, from creativity, from love, and not because I have to or because I'm obligated to, or because I have a duty. And that can be fine too, but we want to choose it, not feel like, Ugh, I have to do this. Yeah. Yep. When you think of the words powerful, and ladies, what are those def, what are those definitions to you?
And do they change when those words are next to each other? Ooh. So when I think of the word powerful, I honestly I, he, to me it's synonymous with empowered. So knowing your own power, embodying your own power, owning it, and power is in our shadow, is in the parts of ourselves that we've disowned or we don't like, and really seeing the illusion that they're not really.
Dark, or bad or negative things. And then ladies, I'm gonna say something that's probably a little scandalous, but I think that there is a reason, a biological, there's a biological reason that girls mature faster than boys. And that, women are why do words keep escaping me today?
They are they can multitask. I'm a poor example of that brain. So they can multitask, whereas men are more single lane focused, right? Brain studies have shown that. And I also think that, I think that when I think of the word ladies are men, women are meant to lead. This movement of awakening to your power.
And I think we're seeing it reflected in society in that you have to go through your shadow work, whether you're conscious of it or not, you're gonna go through your dark night of your soul. And women went through it, have been going through it for the last like 20, 30, 40 years. In in many ways on an individual level, on a collective level.
And I think when I think of the word ladies, I think of we are leading. The movement to help people become empowered and more whole and autonomous and and creators and even, bigger manifesters, quote unquote, but creators of their own lives. And with the words together, I think that's it.
It's embodied. Embodied women. That's what I think. How does epigenetics tie into the Jungian approach? Because, so for people who don't know, the epigenetics is. Emotions and traumas and pain that are being passed on to you genetically. And the reason this can happen is because you were an egg inside your mother, inside your grandmother.
So whatever your grandmother was feeling was definitely passed to your mother and in utero, and it gets passed to you. There's a chain of what the maternal line has felt is that the. Very rough version. Please go Google a real definition, but how does that tie into the Jungian approach and how are you helping people unpack that as well?
I'm gonna be honest, I personally felt like I hit a wall with regards to approaching that. From a youngian psychology perspective it's I see it as it is your conditioning. So your epi, the epigenetics, what you inherit is also the conditioning you are taking on because how your parents respond to certain situations, stress situations is.
Yes, it is in our DNA, but it they are also choosing certain habits and rea reactions in that real time situation. And children observe and they either fully identify with it and take it on, or they reject it. It's one or the other, depending on how they think they'll survive, how the mind thinks it'll survive.
So yes, epigenetics is our conditioning, and that's from the Jungian perspective, but that's why I got into motion code. I actually, I felt like I was starting to encounter generational cycles that was showing up in my own behavior and I was like, this. This is a weird response. This doesn't feel like mine.
Like it felt like my ancestors are like in my ear and you should be doing this. And I'm like, oh, this is old. This felt old. And, so that is when I started to read about emotion code and I reached out to, actually, it was my first youngian coach that I got who is now certified in emotion code and body code.
And she and I started working together. And that is when I uncovered this. Sort of the metaphysical aspect of this work, the energy aspect of this work, which is that emotions are energy. And so through shadow work we uncover your unconscious essentially, these repressed aspects of yourself, which are your emotions.
Emotions are energy. So we are spending so much. Energy repressing this energy, and that is this potential that I talk about, right? So when you bring it to light, when you bring it to the surface, then you are reclaiming that potential, that energy, you are freeing it and you are I guess transforming it.
And through the emotion code, I have learned that on a deeper scale. So it's if you look at the model of the psyche, youngian model of the psyche you start to shadow work starts on a personal level. It's really uncovering the personal unconscious. And then with time, the more you do that, it's like the iceberg, right?
It gets deeper. It comes above water. It goes down more into your accessing the collective unconscious. So this is the ancestral epigenetics. You are uncovering, I'm getting goosebumps. As I'm talking about you are uncovering the patterns of behavior that your ancestors really experienced and passed onto their kids and, I felt like emotion code was really efficient and so much faster because a lot, a lot of this can be physical, it can manifest physically in our ailments. If, if, if every woman in your family had fibromyalgia and it's passed down, that's epigenetics, right? And it's no, it, the buck ends with me.
I like the buck stops. Sorry, the buck stops with me. And so emotion code helped me to. Really address the inherited stuff a lot and release it. And it is it's been really interesting what comes up because I'll have memories that are not mine, just show up as I'm releasing them and it's holy cow, that's really fascinating.
That's just how deep the well is that we can access. One of the most fascinating things that I saw recently, and this might be too woo for some people, but there is a psychologist team. I don't remember if they're in Austria or Germany, they were speaking German, but they have uncovered research that whenever someone has claimed to have a Poltergeist experience, that it was actually their own trauma being out, like being released.
So obviously there's a jump between human's abilities when. Having such extreme energetic emotion to be able to do something telepathically. That part they didn't explain, but it was simply that like things that we didn't even know we were dealing with become so big and they're so heavy and they're so extreme that we have to release it some way to survive.
And it's showing up. And this Holter guys component, exactly. As soon as someone went to therapy, worked on it, did release it in other capacities, the Polter case experience has stopped. Incredible. I think that's so nerdy and fascinating. I love it and I believe it, but it all fits into that space, right?
If who we are at our peers form is that energy when we're not responsible for it. You and I know on an emotional level when we're not responsible, like we can change an entire room. Like it happens at family dinners all the time. If one person's angry, suddenly everyone's woo, feel it. Yes.
Yeah. And like I said, the emotion code really opened my eyes to that the metaphysical side of this work, which, God bless him young died before he could explore that. And really you know about it. And I don't, and I, like you said, I think it is very taboo in the field of psychology.
And it is just now starting to make a boom like Joe Dispenza and all these thought leaders coming out to talk about the metaphysical aspects of, and the energetics. And I'm starting to. I am just starting to see the world in that way myself. And it's much deeper.
It's much deeper than the, the psychology stuff was great and it took me as far as it did. And now I'm just like, okay, I wanna go a little deeper. Yeah. With understanding energy and. Because if we attract what we are which is the shadow work, so that is where the shadow work comes in and it's okay, that person is mirroring back to you, aspects of yourself that you can uncover and love and accept and transform.
Then that takes it to a whole other level with regards to energetic work. Yeah. Yeah. And so much of it's that falls into the meta metaphysical space seems new and progressive, but so much of it's tied to ancient wisdom that Yes, exactly. Women in particular used to hold and Exactly. So it's really interesting to see all of it coming back together.
And I'm happy to be living in a time when. You get the Western and the Eastern and the ancient all with the information. Yes. Because of the tech, right? The tech world Information technology is giving us access to information that, I would have, I would've, 40, 50 years ago actively gone into a library to look up a book on ancient medicine.
Yeah. But this is the thing, and I think that with. With the path of individuation or individuating becoming more whole, reclaiming parts of yourself, you start to tap into your own spirituality. Yeah. Because you start to see that I am not just a physical being. In fact, most of what I'm made of, if you put your, blood cells under microscope, most of it is nothingness.
Is space. So I, there is more of me that is space. Nothingness, non-physical matter that you start to access that when you become more awakened to your whole self, your true self. We ask everyone to rank themselves in the powerful lady scale. If zero is the most average everyday human, and 10 is the most powerful lady you can imagine, where would you rank yourself today and on an average day?
Oh gosh. I am the, I'm all, I'm zero to 10 and I think that. This is probably not the most professional answer, but I think that this is the humanness of myself and I think only recently I've learned to embrace the humanness of myself, which is there are days. I could tell you the days this week that I was like, yeah, Friday felt this way.
Monday. I was like embodied. I am on it. I feel like I know myself and I feel it. And you're just like, you're in a state of flow and like things are coming your way. And then something comes up to be purged. And that's really as simple as it is. And in those moments, we forget who we are. I forget who I, I even, I forget.
And it's, and so it, it's. I know that the intention is to stay neutral, right? And I think ironically, the more that I've accepted the ups and downs and my humanness, the more that I actually have become neutral. And I'm like, oh, here it is again. Okay. And I'm at a low point and I have doubts, okay? But I know that's not who I am.
Or sometimes I forget. I'm like, oh my God, life is ending. It's yeah, my inner voice is very dramatic. I'm an Aries, I'm a fire sign. So like the inner voice is everything's amazing or everything's horrible, so I'm all of it. We also know that the Powerful Ladies community is the big and powerful community that often has the next key that you're looking for.
So how can we help? What do you need? What's on your to-do list or to manifest list that we can help with? Oh, that's wonderful. Thanks for offering. Actually, I was looking for I need a good photographer. I need I need to get new headshots. I've got people for you. Oh, fantastic. And, I really, I, and I'm, I would like to start my own podcast as well.
And I keep putting that off because I think the tech aspect of it intimidates me, which is so silly because you literally, this is the phone is here's your podcast. Yeah. Here's your mic and everything. But that would be great resources for those two. For everyone who wants to meet you, find you follow, you connect, hire you, where can they do those things?
Wonderful. So I'm on Instagram and you can find me at this life fulfilled and as well as I'm open to email if anyone's interested. Like I said, I, by the time this podcast comes out, I'll be certified as an emotion code practitioner, so that is an additional modality that I'm adding to my coaching.
People can just. Receive emotion codes, release sessions, if they have physical ailments, if they have anxiety it is useful for any subject and it is so much faster. But the two together go hand in hand as well. The coaching with the conscious mind and the shadow work as well as the emotion code.
And you can email me at shati at intuit I-N-T-U-I t-coaching.com. Perfect. Again, thank you so much. This has been great, and I can't wait to hear everyone's reaction to this conversation. Thank you. Thank you for having me.
All the links to connect with Shady and her coaching in her show notes@thepowerfulladies.com. Subscribe and rate this podcast wherever you're listening and come join us on Instagram at Powerful Ladies. Connect directly with me@karaduffy.com and on Instagram. Kara Duffy, I'll be back next week with a brand new episode and new amazing guest.
Until then, I hope you're taking on being powerful in your life. Go be awesome and up to something you love.
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