Episode 265: She Was Too Shy to Speak. Now She’s on French TV | Adeline Perez | Comedian, Author, Writer
Isn’t life beautiful when we surprise ourselves with how brave we can be? It's not common for an incredibly shy person to end up on stage and then on TV, but that is exactly what today’s Powerful Ladies Podcast guest, Adeline Perez, has done. From being too shy to speak up in six-person meetings to now awaiting the launch of her book, Adeline has taken the traumas of corporate life and turned them into her own unique comedy that is captivating audiences across France on Instagram, TikTok, and television.
“All the problems I’ve had, when I share them on stage it’s magical. It’s pure comedy. They relate and the shame is removed.”
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Chapters:
(00:00:01) – From Corporate Shyness to Comedy Stardom
(00:04:15) – Finding Her Voice on Stage and Online
(00:09:00) – Why Comedy Is a Tool for Healing and Shame Release
(00:13:30) – Yoga, Intuition and Trusting Your Gut
(00:17:00) – How She Landed a Book Deal on Toxic Management
(00:22:30) – Social Media Strategy and Professional Growth
(00:28:15) – Standing Up for Yourself Without Losing Yourself
(00:34:45) – Speaking Hard Truths With Humor and Heart
(00:40:00) – What's Next for Adeline and Her Mission to Help Others Speak Up
I'm so excited to have you here today because you're one of my favorite humans and I don't get to spend as much time as I would like with you and you've been a past podcast guest as well. So let's tell everyone who you are, where you are and what you're up to in the world.
Yeah, I'm so happy to be back for the second time in the podcast.
And yes, you're also my favorite person on this planet. You know it. And so I'm Adeline. I'm french. I live in spain. We used to work together back in the days in germany And since then we've been friends and you've been helping me to develop my yoga teaching business That I no longer do. So my path has been completely different now and very exciting to talk about it.
Well, let's dive right into that. Cause you're doing things that I. Never imagined you would do they were they weren't on the scope of possibilities when I first met you So what are you doing now?
Yeah, it's really funny. I was not expecting that at all. Now i'm I'm a slasher Meaning that I do stand up comedy.
I'm Also a comedian. I'm an author and i'm being paid to write funny movies Sketches and scenarios and to act in some small videos. Yeah, that's, that's my new, my new life. It's all about being exposed and being very visible and showing myself on social media and something for the shy person that I am, which is completely, completely not the path, but very, very happy to, to be here now.
And you've been, you've been on French TV. Yes, true. Every, every month I'm on one of the channel one of the business channel where they wanted to have two minutes of a funny person having yeah, a funny perspective on a topic. And. They, yeah, I'm sending my videos to French TV.
Well, and a lot of people in the U S are following or, or I've heard of corporate Natalie, who does comedy about, you know, the workplace and especially the differences in generations in the workplace today.
And so tell people, what are you, what are you? What's your comedy about and how does it tie into work?
Yes. So my, my accounts, all my social accounts are in French. When I started, I tried to do it in English and in French and in the end it resonated more with French people. So now it's fully fully in French and it's indeed about corporate world.
I started with the intent to give advice. To young people that were looking for a job. I was like that that could be my My my mission to help people so we're still in the I want to help people and that's why I started on social media And then I was like wait, it's too serious. It's not me I need to add some fun and then I started having this character.
So I'm my character on social media is this Crazy HR lady that is completely upset with how the world is changing and she doesn't understand what Gen Z wants and she doesn't understand why now women are in power and so I'm using her as a way to talk about all the problems that I see in corporate world and to use fun and humor to talk about very heavy topics.
And it's resonating very well with with the French community.
And what I find so amazing about this is when I first met you, you were someone who was petrified to speak up in a meeting, let alone on stage for a presentation that we would have to do.
How has your relationship with public speaking shifted to get it to a point where not only are you now speaking on camera on a regular basis, but you're funny and you're enjoying it.
Yeah. So it's, thank you. You know, it's, it's, I think it's a, something I'm working on since many years. And it's like baby steps that helped me.
And I remember one of this really traumatizing moments I had with you. We were in a meeting and usually I was talking to you before meeting and after meeting and sharing my thoughts in the privacy of our relationship, you know, like, Hey, I would like to say this in the meeting. Or after the meeting, I was telling you, Oh, by the way, I have this idea that I didn't mention.
And at some point, You, you tricked me and we were in the meeting and people turned to you because you were the, you were the leader and they were like, so Cara, what do we do for this project? And you were like, and you said, well, actually Adeline is working on the project and she knows better. And then you went silent.
And you dared to let me talk in front of, I don't know, we were maybe six people, which is nothing. And I started sweating and I was like, she trusts me more than I trust myself. And I did actually, well, nothing bad happened. And I remember this as one of the big moments of like, Hey, I really need to change something and to speak up more and having the, it's really rare to have a manager that does this because managers, they love to talk.
They love to have the light on them. And you wanted me to shine and buy this. I'm kidding when I say traumatizing moments, it was the little nudge I needed. And then I think you, you put me in this training of like, how to speak in public the company offered. So I had this first second traumatizing experience, but then at some point I just keep kept going and kept challenging me a bit every day.
Okay. Now my goal is to talk to at least three people I don't know, or my goal is to call a restaurant to ask if they are open. I just kept challenging myself with still stuff and more recently, like two years ago, I, I started stand up comedy lessons because you have, you can learn, you can learn to be funny, you can learn to know how to write jokes.
And this, Moment when I went on stage, well prepared and well coached by by our teacher, I was just flying with like, oh my God, how good it is to be in front of a crowd, have a mic and hear them laughing and clapping. And they're not throwing tomatoes at me. It's amazing. And I think this started something and since then with the videos helping social media doing it every day now I'm really comfortable in most of social situation and it's it's crazy to see the the journey It's possible.
Well, and what I've been so proud of you There's many things that I've been proud of you about but what's been really amazing about You stepping into your power with public speaking. It's also allowed you to step into your power with your own voice and your own needs. Cause that's also been a dramatic sit.
Excuse me, a dramatic switch since I've met you. And where did, did that come from the public speaking? Was it a combination of that plus the yoga and listening to yourself? Like how have you gotten so much more confidence? Thanks. I think there's so many people listening. Who are exactly where you were when we first met and it's crazy to them to think that you would be on, they would be on stage doing a comedy routine.
So how, how have you been getting into this place of your own self confidence and your own self worth?
Yes, I think so. I'm still, I'm still progressing every day. I see, I compare myself to last year and I'm like, Oh my God, I progressed again. So it's a constant evolution, but you're right. Yoga helped me a lot in the way of we're all vulnerable and we all face insecurities and we all have the same fears.
I say all most of us, and I just realized every everything I do that I'm ashamed of there is another person on this planet that does exactly the same and is also ashamed of it. So I'm not alone, and this helped me to first accept and also see that it's beautiful to not be perfect and to share it. And that's where people connect.
It's like, Oh, there's There's a crack and I can see lights behind and I think that's how we connect as human is a this is where I experienced difficulties and this is where I'm struggling and and that's when we connect and Knowing that helped me on stage also to Put the light on something that usually you keep in the dark because that's in stand up comedy.
That's what we are looking for. And sometimes you see comedians, they're talking about their mental health and hey, I'm depressed. Hey, I'm taking Xanax. Hey, I'm because people relate. And because they make fun of something that usually nobody say but there's those little thing that will have comic Humoristic potential once you dealt once you're done with it.
You cannot talk about something super traumatizing Of course, you have to have some perspective on it. But that's for me All those problems that I have, it's on stage, it's magical. Like me sharing how shy I was and I could not dare to press the stop button in the bus is, is, is pure comedic, comedic, comedic material.
It's, it's awesome. Those kind of thing and people are just laughing, but laughing because they've been there too. And they relate and you make it funny and, and then you remove the shame of something that is not that bad. And I think this helped me to just remove the ego of like, Hey, we all have to be perfect.
And if you're not, you cannot be where you are. No, you're you're say it. You're not perfect.
That's okay. Well, there's that saying that it's funny because it's true. And that's what you're speaking to, right? The truth of the ridiculousness that all of us
Yeah, and it's funny at the end, sometimes people, they come and they talk to you and they're like, wow, your, your imagination is so strong. I'm like, it's not my imagination, it's my life.
Makes it even better.
Yeah. Or sometimes they're like, Hey, you know, me too. I do this and thank you for sharing. I felt less alone. It was like what I wanted.
Well, and, and you've done so much work to listen to yourself. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
You, you know, you've had a long term regular yoga practice, meditation practice, journaling, intuitive eating practice, like you've been working on those things for 20 years? 15
could be, yeah, yeah, because everything we, it sounds so cheesy. It's like, it's all the answers are, are within us and we know everything in it's inside us, but actually, yeah, I remember now I've always been attracted to being on stage and being funny, but when you're shy and insecure. You're like, why should I talk?
It's not interesting. Why should I talk? It's not funny. Who do I think I am to take space and, and speak up? And some people are more confident and more talented than me and yeah. And they are true. Good for them. Like we all have this space for, for all of us and. And listening to where you're aligned to is, is what is, is my compass right now.
When I have projects coming, I'm like, wait, how does it make me feel in my body? Not in my mind. Are my shoulders suddenly, you know, tensing in my jaw and in my stomach? Am I okay with that? Am I excited to do this project or not? And why? And that's where I start digging. And this is how some projects on the paper, they look amazing, but somehow my intuition is like, and I have to make a difference between intuition and fear because they're not the same feeling could be confusing in the body, but they're not the same.
And I'm trying to, to let this guide me. So yes, yoga helped me that.
I've been talking to a lot of people lately about this whole concept of we had a workshop about trusting yourself. In March, we, I went to a conference and there's a lot of conversations about values over feelings, your standards over feelings.
And I like that you're separating what we feel in our head versus what we feel in our body because I'm trying to help people understand how to separate our feelings versus what we know. Thank you. You're welcome. Because like, when you know something, you just go, like you can't be stopped. It's like, nope, done, out of the way, like it's all business.
When you feel something, like, even being tired, it's a feeling, it can't be trusted. You can get feel, you can get tired when you're bored, when you're scared, when you're nervous. Like you don't get tired when you're excited about something, right? So I think it's so important to be looking at the distinctions between the two and separating them.
And when you do start paying attention, it's so amazing to see. When you are asked if you want to do something and you pause for that second and check in how quickly your body tells you What you are really What you know about it to be a yes or to be a no Once you started listening to yourself in that way, how did your life start to change?
I think I used my time,
To be happier because now a lot of projects are coming in, which, which is great because when I started, I was like, you arrive at the midlife crisis and you're like, wow, it's time to be rich now and look at what you've done in the past and not start over from scratch again and be like, how am I going to get money?
And, you know, and you're very insecure. But I, I kept, I kept to this. Is that gonna make me happy? And actually, then you do a video and the results are great because you're happy to do it. And then people see you're happy to do this. And so they contact you for similar project. And then in the end, you do more project of what makes you happy.
And of course, sometimes they come with completely different project. Like I was approached by it. A company, they were like, Hey, can you come in our company? And we have this full, like event all day. And you could be like interrupting people talking on stage and making and being fun. You, you could be the clown of the day.
And I was like, no, no, no no, thank you. Yeah, I look funny and stuff and, and they wanted. Somehow to have me in the company doing funny stuff like I do on the video. But then I was like, no, that's not, I want to do. And even though it was a real project, I was like, no, thank you. Because I was like, then what?
Then I do a lot of stuff like that. And it's not me. Yeah, and and I think it's it's just making you happy to everyday work on stuff You know, you love and your brain is working together and to me it's it's a perfect schedule I love him explaining this correctly, but it's you you just feel happy even though you're working a lot But you just feel happy doing it and you know where you're going or you don't know where you're going, but you know, it's the right direction.
I think you're saying it perfectly. So how did all of this lead to you becoming an author?
So the good thing about social media is that it's your own platform to share who you are and people will see you and they'll be like, Oh, she looks nice and kind and funny and I want to work with her. So in the beginning, I just worked on my visibility. And then at some point people from companies, they're like, Hey, we're watching your videos in meetings.
And thank you for talking about this topic. And then I got contacted by this pretty big French Publishing publisher, publisher, and they were like, Hey, We, we like you. I don't know. We want to do something with you. Do you want to write a book? And I was like, oh, yes. And they were like, we would like to talk about toxic management.
Is that something you do? And I was like, yes, yes, yes, definitely. Because I've known toxic manager and I've known extremely good managers. And yes, I have something to say as a person that is toxic. the perfect victim for toxic manager. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, please. And she was like, but we went to you because we want this book to be funny.
Not only about theoretical stuff. So that all made sense. I can write about a topic that is important to me. And I would like to share with young people, be careful of some people, and this is how you can protect yourself. And this is what you can do. And this is what you should not do. And these are the red flag.
These are the green flag. Like I have all this thing to share, to kind of heal myself because I didn't do it in the past. And now I can do it in the Adeline way, which is with a lot of jokes. Because yeah, it's difficult to talk about toxic management, but if you make it funny, then it's a really funny book still with a lot of advices, which I think there is a lot of advices from you in this book.
I may have been asked to answer a few questions for this book. Yes. I'm very excited about it. I'm really proud of you and excited to, to see the book and have a copy of the book. What I'm most curious about is when will it be released in English and what do we have to do to get it released in English?
That's a very good question. That's a very good question. It will be released in France in May and Let's see how the traction it gets and if they in the contract it's I signed okay for being translated in all languages so
Yep, I had to do a big leap of faith and be like, I don't know this contract I'm signing.
It's in French. I trust Adeline. We're just going to sign it.
Yes. Or you have to learn French now,
which is a, you know, possibly it's a positive. It's okay. I'm taking Italian classes right now, actually.
Yeah, more or less the same.
Totally the same. Though you would have I signed up for beginners one and I was nervous about doing that because I speak some Italian and I can get by when I'm in Italy.
So I was like, I don't know if it's really a beginner one level, but I've never actually taken an Italian official class. So let's just do it. And I missed the first class because I had to do an event and up at, up in LA. And so I go and they knew this and they, I go to the second class and I walk in a little bit late coming again from an event in LA that day.
I walk in and everyone, she's the teacher is talk is teaching everyone how to use euros. I almost turned right around and left. Cause I'm like, oh my gosh, if they're teaching people what a euro is and how to use it. And like, I'm going to lose my mind. Like if that's where we're starting, like I need to learn some new words and like, let's go.
But the teacher is lovely. It changed all around. We went through all the numbers and money and phone numbers, addresses. So still. We're slowly getting to some new words as, as we progress in the class, but I was so nervous. And then last week they said, like, who's been to Italy? And like, most of the class raised their hand.
And she's like, where have you guys been? And people are like, naming a city. And she's like, and what about you? And I'm like a lot of Italy. I'm like, I used to live in Europe. And she's like, Okay, we're skipping you next.
Yeah. Yeah. But it feels it's, it's nice to be in a class again. I miss being in class for something. Usually I'm the one teaching. So coming back to you and your life right now and what's going on, like, what's, What's next? What are your days look like?
My days are actually pretty full of writing. So there's a, I'm trying to be organized.
Like I think what we learn in companies is it's helping, it's like social media is still a, it's still a job. It's helping me to be organized and have like, okay, this is the scripting part. And then there's the shooting part. And then there's the editing part. I'm trying to be more organized. I have a calendar for every platform.
Here's what I'm going to post on TikTok, Instagram, LinkedIn. And they all have different strategies. So keeping on the on the training to be up to date because algorithm are changing every six months and it's, it's, the trends are changing and talking on LinkedIn is different than talking on the Instagram.
You're talking to different target groups, age target group. And this is very interesting because in, in all this, I have very good Communities. Like, I don't have that many haters. I don't know if it's because I do it funny or stuff, but even if I'm talking about companies, people are still reacting pretty good.
So that's where I'm like, okay, that's my angle. I've been in 14 years in companies and I'm talking to people in companies and like we, we relate and yeah. What was the question? And what's next? Oh, what's next? So there's the book being released, which which helped me also get calls from companies. Thank you.
They want to have like, not really conferences, but intervention or I don't know, they, they want to, they have some from the video to real life. And this is, this is really exciting to have this. And I wait, now I have an agent so fancy. Oh yeah. I know. Right. And when they call me, I'm like, Oh, let me talk to my agent or have you talked to my age?
No, I'm kidding. But it's really cool. Like there's that many projects that I need to have someone that is help me out negotiate. Also talking about money. I hate it. I still hate it. And now someone does it for me.
And now you just need to yell at them for, to make it right.
Let's talk about my book, about toxic management.
I'm the best example. So now I'm just, I'm just really happy working on the videos and the more you work with in English, it's not famous, but I'm working with kind of a French version of LinkedIn. They have quite a big visibility and every video we release is. Is really reaching a lot of people and and and it's really amazing and we really shoot in Professional condition.
It's not just me with my iphone like there's some there's several cameras. There's the right light there is a right sound and there is a several journalists to Help me adjust the scripts and it's really it's really great So for me this actually this what i'm going through currently It's great. Mm-Hmm. at, at first I, I was like, oh, maybe I should, I need to use this as a plat as you know, like in swimming pool we jump on something that brings you to
Yeah. Like to go to the next level.
Mm-Hmm. . Yeah. And I was like, I, I, I need to use this to go to the next level, but actually I'm really enjoying this level.
So right now I'm enjoying this level and I enjoyed a lot writing the book. I think it was full 'cause when you've been fired, and I know we don't have the same vision of being fired in the US and in France. But in French, it's really, it's really like you're, you're a loser. You lose your identity. I was still hard for me when there was not, it was economical economical.
Yeah, it was in America, it's called a layoff, a layoff. Like it was not because I did something bad. And even though it was hard for me, so kind of having the book released is like not a revenge, but it's really also good for the ego, but that I did it only for Diego, but it's also, ah, I, you see, I've, I've, I've done something.
I created something. I've done something important to me.
It's nice to have that redemption and to. You know, you've always been more powerful than whatever role you've been in, and you've always been someone who wants to get the job done right and help other people. And you have so many examples of working with dumb idiots, which is amazing.
And I'm sure like B no matter how progressive companies are being female, being attractive, being smart, looking younger than you are. There's a lot of reasons why people. Stereotypically could dismiss you and think that they can treat you any way that they want to. And. I don't know. It's just been really impressive to see you manage those situations.
Like some of them you've called me for and asked for advice before, because you get, it's so shocking when someone does something either rude or aggressive or in any of the harassment categories but you've handled them with so much grace that I'm, it's, It feels so right that you are now helping other people know how to be powerful in those situations and know that toxic management and toxic colleagues and toxic vendors are just not okay.
Yeah, and I, Thank you. And I also learned to say it in, in my way, because I looked up to a lot of people to like, how do they handle situations like that? And they said, and I was taking note of the sentences they were saying. I was like, but wait, it's not, this is not how I communicate. I cannot suddenly turn into a people.
And yeah, that's not me. I have to find my way to still say something, but in my way, that is, It's almost like I still want to be friends with you. And I think I managed to do that by just simply point, just saying out loud what was happening. And it happened. Yeah, it was last week. I went to Paris and I, and I was waiting at the, at the security and two Spanish guy skipped the line and went in front of the guy before me.
And usually I'm part of the people that just like, but say nothing. And this time in Spanish out loud in front of a fully crowded airport, I was like there is a line you have to go back where you were because we are all waiting here. But I didn't say it aggressively. I just said it very loud and naturally.
And people looked at me like, Oh, thank you. Someone said something. It's the first time I've been this person. And then, so they still skip the line, which is, but I said something, they skip the line and they're, and they're shame, shame. Yeah. But I was so proud of myself and it's just saying things. Just as it is like, Hey, there's a line can you go back to where you are?
And then I don't know what they said in Spanish, whatever, but they just looked like assholes. And I looked like, wow, this girl is so confident. I loved myself that day. I was like, yeah, it's starting to work. Finally saying something for some people, when you talk to people that are super confident, they're like duh.
You were never saying anything? No. And when your french fries are cold in a restaurant, you say nothing? Yeah. Why? Because I'm scared. But when you've been there, you understand how, how powerful this is. Those little moments are victories that you're the only person to know the price of it. I enjoy it.
Well, I'm thinking I got an immediate flashback to an experience I had actually in the Barcelona airport.
The first time I went there was for work. And I had flown down with one of our colleagues and he and I were in line. He was also an American living in Germany and we're in line and these two women, we're not talking though, we're like checking our phones or, you know, we're just waiting to go through security.
And these two women get in line in front of us speaking very loud in American. And I was like, Oh, you're so embarrassing. And, but then they made some comment, like, well. You know, this Japanese guy is just not, like, they made some comment about my colleague. And I was like, excuse me. First of all, he's not Japanese.
And second, we can hear you. And they were like, oh, sorry.
But if I spoke up more because I was mad that they were insulting my colleague.
Yeah.
Then the fact that they were just being rude and obnoxious, plus I felt emboldened because we were in a foreign country and they were clearly American speaking English. And it's amazing to me how people think that they, like, people can't hear you when English is the most spoken language in the world.
And, oh, and by the way, many people traveling in foreign airports speak other languages, so you really can't get away with anything. Like maybe if you're speaking Danish, it's going to be hard to find someone who also speaks Danish, but every other language, good luck. Good luck.
Mm hmm. Proud of you.
Thank you.
Thank you. It's, it's always, but it is, it's so much easier to stand up for other people than ourselves.
Yeah, that's,
that, yeah, still,
still hard. But yeah, life is teaching me to, to do it more and more. So sometimes you don't have a choice then. Listen to you, because nobody knows people can give you advice, but nobody knows what you only the only one that knows what you have to do.
Well, and this goes back to knowing yourself, because I think you're really right that when we try to step into our confidence and we try to step into our power and our voice, it can feel awkward when we're mimicking other people that we've seen. And it's not the same impact. It doesn't, it doesn't feel good in the way that we want stepping into our power to feel.
So it really does have to be done our way. And like, it has to be trial and error. You just have to try and adjust. I
mimicked Maria one of our friend, because I look at her like, Oh my God, she's so confident. And she says, Super like I really admire her and I tried in my job after to do Maria style But you have to be Maria to do my style and it was it's just I was saying the right words, but it was I not coming with the confidence of like, those are my words.
And people were like, and that's why you're, yeah. Finding your own way of saying, and sometimes it's just like, Hey, I don't know why, but I'm not okay with that. And I still don't know why I don't have an explanation. I just don't feel okay with that. Can, can we pause on that? Can, can I, can I answer to you later or something's wrong?
I cannot explain, but, or I'm not confident with what's happening. No. Okay. Sometimes even when you cannot express it correctly, just saying that you cannot express it correctly, just saying what, what's going on.
Yeah. I had a, I always remember that time that I came back from a meeting and found you and our intern working on something and then I turned the corner and you guys both just shut up and I was like, okay.
What are you guys working on and like you started laughing and they're like, well, it's a project But we can't show it to you yet because it's not perfect and you won't accept it unless it's perfect. So don't look
It sticks in my memory because it was such a great example of a team that I adored Like knowing me and my neurosis and my, you know, specifications and expectations and not making me wrong for it. Just being like, that's how she is. We're just gonna have to make it that way. And that's okay. Yeah. It, it was not made out of fear, it was made out of No, no, no.
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yeah, yeah. And then I got reminded of it before this call. Cause I had a meeting with my business partner for that new brand we're launching and we were meeting, we were talking to some factories on the zoom call and we had our own zoom after.
And she's like, do you think everything's getting on track? And I'm like, and she's like, Oh, I know that. And you have a couple of them. And that one says. Shit's getting taken care of. And I was like, yes, that's what that one meant. Thank you for seeing me. Cause it goes both ways. There's like stepping into being comfortable with like who you are in the more like, cause so many of my clients get nervous that they have too high expectations and they're too direct and they're too demanding when often I'm telling them, Like, no, like it's, it's not that you're being too demanding or having too high expectations.
You're just not telling your team why so that because most of the time when you tell people why you have these high expectations, they get it. And it's usually because you see a part that they don't have visibility to, or they don't know what's going to happen next and why this matters so much. So I tell my clients to, to tell their team why more and not to lower your standards, but to help get everyone else to kind of understand it from your perspective.
Because I think that they're the confidence goes in both ways. Am I confidently speaking up for what I need? And am I? confidently Sharing who I am and why who I am is is right Because sometimes who we are feels too big for other people
and so it makes me think about like a personal example This is like when you get confident It doesn't stay in one area.
It will go to all areas of your life, whether you want it or not. And I was talking with my family. And suddenly there was this urge of like, Hey, by the way, there's this problem that hasn't been solved and nobody talks about since 20 years. I think now it's time you say what you think about this. And this was coming from inside my body.
I was really like, okay, now it's time to talk. And my head was like, no, we're having nice. Dinner, shut up. Everything is perfect. And I was like, wait, no, it's about listening. So I'm going to say it. And when you share something that has 20 years of emotional weight on it, you cannot say like, Hey, by the way, let me share something.
And I was like, And my voices started shaking and I started sweating and being red and was like, okay, I'm going to say something and I'm not going to sing without emotions because I cannot, but I have to share what I think about this event from 20 years ago, blah, blah, blah. And I know like the delivery is not correct because I'm really emotional about it.
I'm really stressed. I might cry. But don't don't get focused on that. Listen to the message behind because it's important. I have to share it, but I'm reacting like the 20 year old past me, but I still want to say it. And I still shared what I wanted to say by saying how uncomfortable I was that I was crying about something that actually was not important.
Like adult me was like, this is not important, but Baby me was like, no, I need to share because I was not okay with that. And this was sad for me or something, but the fact that you're saying it and just like being aware of what's going on, it's what helping me say anything. And this is, was an example of stuff I didn't want to say.
And I still said it by acknowledging the fact that I was not saying as saying it as an adult, because it was too much for me. And it went perfect. And we solved something older than 20 years of amazing. I was like, it's so easy when you are true to yourself. It's I mean, it's hard because I didn't want to say it.
And I was like, Oh my God, I'm so ashamed. I'm crying about something that is not relevant at all, but so proud that I still like checking this box.
Well, it's also speaks to a level of being responsible for who you are, as well as the impact you're having on other people. Right, even letting people know, like, hey, I'm gonna be more emotional than I might normally be and pay attention to my words and not that, like giving people that space is a, is a huge deal because so often we're not listening to ourselves.
We're not paying attention. We're not dealing with what's inside us. And so when we go to share something important, we explode on people or we look crazy and no one knows the context to it. So they get really scared because it's not who you normally are. And we don't prepare people with how to deal with things in a powerful way all the time.
And so I think that's such a nice, you said it so nonchalantly, but that's such a powerful component to being a great communicator and really being committed to the solving the issue versus just word vomiting all over somebody else and now they have to deal with it. Yeah.
Yeah. And it was really like focus on the message and please excuse all the emotions coming to it.
Cannot. I just cannot. It was so authentic. In the end, we all hugged. I was like, why I didn't, why I waited so long? Cause I, I could not, just could not. And it was made in my own way. Like, yes, I'm, I'm sensitive. Yes. I'm going to cry. Please. Dismiss the cry. Listen to the message. Easy.
Well, you are taking France by storm and soon the world with your comedy, with your videos, with your book for everybody who wants to hire you, follow you, I'm going to take that again.
Cause this brisket jingle jangled over my audio for everybody who wants to follow you, support you, work with you. Where can they find you?
So my my social handle is Anna.
You will write it, no? Yes, I will. Yes. It'll all be in the show notes. Okay. So I'm all the chef in French for now on Instagram, Tik TOK and and LinkedIn.
And if somebody wants to reach out to you for doing something like this in English or to come speak at their business, can they just DM you from that handle?
Is that the best thing to do?
Yeah, that's, that's the best thing to do, or also I can also give the email of my agent because did I mention that I have an agent now? No, but yes, they can DM me for sure and I will be happy to, to do it in English because I can see my English level is going down because I'm not using it that much.
So we need to have more talks.
Well, yes, I would love to hang out with you more. I hope that you're coming to. California or somewhere in the U. S. soon and hopefully I'll be coming to you because it has been too long since I've given you a hug and we're, we are due an adventure. Yes, for sure. But thank you so much for coming back to the Powerful Ladies podcast.
Thank you for sharing what a journey you've been on and Just like the tremendous growth and like living big like you like you are such an example of just going for the big thing and going for what you know in your heart is the right thing to chase after and Yeah, I'm I'm so proud of you, and I'm so honored to have you as a friend.
Thank you same Very happy and it's all about like I'm scared, but I still do it. Thank you. Give me both
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